On 17/10/04 12:12 am, in article
, "Ningi"
wrote:



As a general point though.. Cars running red lights tend to do it as the
light is changing to red. Many cyclists will run a red light regardless
of the colour when they actually arrive at the signal. I think these
are significantly different behaviours.

Absolutely. Cars will speed up to charge across a red light. Cyclists will
slow down and cross if safe[1].

...d

[1] safe does not imply pleasant for those around