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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:50:39 +0100, Pyromancer
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Yes, though (as with cyclists), only to deliberate law-breakers who go
through long after the light has changed. ISTR a policeman on TV years
ago explaining that red-light cameras were set not to fire for the first
few seconds of the red so as not to be too hard on people who made a
genuine miscalculation, but instead to target deliberate and determined
law-breaking.


You are supposed to regard an amber light as a stop signal, but as
usual drivers have consumed the safety margin as a performance
benefit, frequently accelerating through on amber, and then ask for
additional margin on top.

Just like speed cameras. If you make even a half-serious attempt
drive to the speed limit you are unlikely to trigger any camera, since
they are set to 10% + 3mph, and most speedos over-read anyway; instead
people drive to the ACPO prosecution guidelines and whine about being
caught for "a few mph over" when actually they are a few mph over the
guidelines, which are already 20% over the limit for a 30 zone.

When I was learning to drive I was told the meanings of the traffic
light colours could be considered as follows:

Red: Stop
Amber: Stop
Red-Amber: Stop
Green: Stop, unless it is safe to proceed.

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Just zis Guy, you know? opined the following...
Red: Stop
Amber: Stop
Red-Amber: Stop
Green: Stop, unless it is safe to proceed.


I like that. Might become a T-Shirt at some point! ;-)

Jon
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:12:47 +0100, Jon Senior
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Just zis Guy, you know? opined the following...
Red: Stop
Amber: Stop
Red-Amber: Stop
Green: Stop, unless it is safe to proceed.


I like that. Might become a T-Shirt at some point! ;-)

Jon


I once heard the Italian variant of this.

Green - foot to the floor
Amber - keep your foot down
Red - room for one more, keep your foot down
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"Al C-F" m wrote in
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I once heard the Italian variant of this.

Green - foot to the floor
Amber - keep your foot down
Red - room for one more, keep your foot down


And the spoof Fiat advert with picture of a total wreck:-

Designed by computers
Built by robots
Driven by Italians

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