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Long-timers on this group may recall the nutter who claimed that every
station needed to be wheelchair-accessible *right now* and that he could install a chairlift at Goodge Street and Mornington Crescent for only a couple of thousand pounds. He was brought back to my memory recently. Riding the Northern Line southbound, I was startled when a lady in a wheelchair boarded the train at Goodge Street, accompanied by a man who, I presume, had bumped the chair down the steps. They got off, as I did, at Embankment. I last saw them waiting at the bottom of the escalator for the crowd to thin before, presumably, ascending it. So perhaps "accessible" is less of an issue than we thought (which still doesn't justify ignoring it without good cause). -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
Riding the Northern Line southbound, I was startled when a lady in a wheelchair boarded the train at Goodge Street, accompanied by a man who, I presume, had bumped the chair down the steps. They got off, as I did, at Embankment. I last saw them waiting at the bottom of the escalator for the crowd to thin before, presumably, ascending it. So perhaps "accessible" is less of an issue than we thought (which still doesn't justify ignoring it without good cause). Hmm. Whilst i'm not siding with the nutter, i don't think that the operation you observed is a good solution for wheelchairs on the underground: firstly because i imagine being bumped up and down stairs is rather uncomfortable, and secondly because it requires the wheelchair rider to have a heavily-built travelling companion. Now, if LU could supply staff at the stations to do the hefting (not dedicated staff - i'm thinking that normal platform staff could do it), that would be much better. Still, not ideal. tom -- I KNOW WAHT IM TALKING ABOUT SO LISTAN UP AND LISTEN GOOD BECUASE ITS TIEM TO DROP SOME SCIENTISTS ON YUO!!! |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:23:04 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Clive D. W. Feather wrote: Riding the Northern Line southbound, I was startled when a lady in a wheelchair boarded the train at Goodge Street, accompanied by a man who, I presume, had bumped the chair down the steps. They got off, as I did, at Embankment. I last saw them waiting at the bottom of the escalator for the crowd to thin before, presumably, ascending it. So perhaps "accessible" is less of an issue than we thought (which still doesn't justify ignoring it without good cause). Hmm. Whilst i'm not siding with the nutter, i don't think that the operation you observed is a good solution for wheelchairs on the underground: firstly because i imagine being bumped up and down stairs is rather uncomfortable, and secondly because it requires the wheelchair rider to have a heavily-built travelling companion. Am I the only one imagining a 'Little Britain'/Lou & Andy skethc here...? -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War: http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm 625-Online - classic British television: http://www.625.org.uk 'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic: http://www.thingstocome.org.uk |
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![]() "Tom Anderson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Clive D. W. Feather wrote: Riding the Northern Line southbound, I was startled when a lady in a wheelchair boarded the train at Goodge Street, accompanied by a man who, I presume, had bumped the chair down the steps. They got off, as I did, at Embankment. I last saw them waiting at the bottom of the escalator for the crowd to thin before, presumably, ascending it. So perhaps "accessible" is less of an issue than we thought (which still doesn't justify ignoring it without good cause). Hmm. Whilst i'm not siding with the nutter, i don't think that the operation you observed is a good solution for wheelchairs on the underground: firstly because i imagine being bumped up and down stairs is rather uncomfortable, and secondly because it requires the wheelchair rider to have a heavily-built travelling companion. Now, if LU could supply staff at the stations to do the hefting (not dedicated staff - i'm thinking that normal platform staff could do it), that would be much better. Still, not ideal. Or you could encourage people to invest in modern wheelchairs. Have a look at this thing http://www.independencenow-europe.co...bot/index.html |
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Tom Anderson wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 22 Oct 2004:
Now, if LU could supply staff at the stations to do the hefting (not dedicated staff - i'm thinking that normal platform staff could do it), that would be much better. Still, not ideal. At Clapham Junction they have a special machine to hoist wheelchairs up the stairs. I've seen it being used (but the poor wheelchair user couldn't then board the train he wanted as it was too full, much to his fury!) but can't now remember exactly how it worked. However, I do remember it was being operated by a far-from-hefty young woman, so it must have been fairly easy. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 26 September 2004 |
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In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes Long-timers on this group may recall the nutter who claimed that every station needed to be wheelchair-accessible *right now* and that he could install a chairlift at Goodge Street and Mornington Crescent for only a couple of thousand pounds. He was brought back to my memory recently. Riding the Northern Line southbound, I was startled when a lady in a wheelchair boarded the train at Goodge Street, accompanied by a man who, I presume, had bumped the chair down the steps. Not many steps at Goodge Street, though - the lift surfaces at street level, so it is only the flight from the lift landing down to the platform. Also, it is quite possible that the lady concerned had walked down the short flight of stairs. I recall that my sister, towards the end of a long terminal illness, could manage to walk a very short distance (even down a flight of stairs) but would need a wheelchair for anything more than about 30 yards and was not easily able to stand for more than a minute or so. They got off, as I did, at Embankment. I last saw them waiting at the bottom of the escalator for the crowd to thin before, presumably, ascending it. Again, it is quite possible that the lady concerned would have got out of the wheelchair for the escalator ride. As I recall, the escalator from the Northern line at embankment runs right up to street level. So perhaps "accessible" is less of an issue than we thought (which still doesn't justify ignoring it without good cause). I think that disability (and thus "accessibility") is a many faceted thing. Someone like Ade Adepitan (*) could probably take his wheelchair up an escalator unaided! (*) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/othe...rt/3700977.stm -- Paul Terry |
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Paul Terry ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : Someone like Ade Adepitan (*) could probably take his wheelchair up an escalator unaided! (*) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/othe...rt/3700977.stm "Ade is training hard to make the squad for Athens" D'you wanna tell him, or shall I? |
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