JRS: In article ,
dated Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:31:56, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Chris
posted :

Got my statement today and have a few issues:
...
3. Some strange times appear e.g. I got on a bus at 25:03 (is this to
do with travelcards being valid until 3am=27:00?)

I seek references or evidence for the use of, so to speak, the 24-hour
clock outside the range 00:00 to 24:00. One of my Web pages wants to
refer.

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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:55:50 +0000, Dr John Stockton
wrote:

JRS: In article ,
dated Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:31:56, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Chris
posted :

Got my statement today and have a few issues:
...
3. Some strange times appear e.g. I got on a bus at 25:03 (is this to
do with travelcards being valid until 3am=27:00?)

I seek references or evidence for the use of, so to speak, the 24-hour
clock outside the range 00:00 to 24:00. One of my Web pages wants to
refer.

The ticketing system has used the concept of days longer than 24 hours
for a long time to reflect the fact that the traffic day and associated
ticket validity can stretch in to the next calendar day.

There is nothing unusual in this from my experience.
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Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:55:50 +0000, Dr John Stockton
wrote:

JRS: In article ,
dated Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:31:56, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Chris
posted :

Got my statement today and have a few issues:
...
3. Some strange times appear e.g. I got on a bus at 25:03 (is this to
do with travelcards being valid until 3am=27:00?)

I seek references or evidence for the use of, so to speak, the 24-hour
clock outside the range 00:00 to 24:00. One of my Web pages wants to
refer.

The ticketing system has used the concept of days longer than 24 hours
for a long time to reflect the fact that the traffic day and associated
ticket validity can stretch in to the next calendar day.

There is nothing unusual in this from my experience.

So if I have a TC that expires on Friday and travel at 2am on Saturday
then that is counted as 26:00 on Friday.

But if I have a TC that starts on Saturday and travel at the same time
then how is that recorded? Is it 26:00 on Friday and not valid, or
02:00 on saturday?

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:21:16, Chris wrote:

But if I have a TC that starts on Saturday and travel at the same time
then how is that recorded? Is it 26:00 on Friday and not valid, or
02:00 on saturday?

Quite. Bloody stupid. WTF can't there be an unambiguous date-stamp
that all understand.

26:00 indeed. Bah. Humbug.

--
Jim Crowther "It's MY computer" (tm SMG)

Always learning.

JRS: In article , dated
Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:29:48, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Paul
Corfield posted :
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:55:50 +0000, Dr John Stockton
wrote:

JRS: In article ,
dated Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:31:56, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Chris
posted :

Got my statement today and have a few issues:
...
3. Some strange times appear e.g. I got on a bus at 25:03 (is this to
do with travelcards being valid until 3am=27:00?)

I seek references or evidence for the use of, so to speak, the 24-hour
clock outside the range 00:00 to 24:00. One of my Web pages wants to
refer.

The ticketing system has used the concept of days longer than 24 hours
for a long time to reflect the fact that the traffic day and associated
ticket validity can stretch in to the next calendar day.

There is nothing unusual in this from my experience.

Possibly so. But I was asking for references or evidence; hard details
- not limited to London or UK, BTW.

Are you asserting that the duration exceeds 24 hours, or just that the
hour number can exceed 24? The relevant day could be 03:00 to 27:00.

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"Dr John Stockton" wrote in message
...

Possibly so. But I was asking for references or evidence; hard details
- not limited to London or UK, BTW.

Broadcasters do this all the time - they use clock times that run 06:00:00 -
29:59:59, except one day of the year which finishes at 30:59:59. See, for
example:

http://www.atruk.co.uk/BARB/BARB2002LSP01.doc

D A Stocks

JRS: In article , dated Mon, 22 Nov 2004
16:54:48, seen in news:uk.transport.london, David A Stocks
posted :

Broadcasters do this all the time - they use clock times that run 06:00:00 -
29:59:59, except one day of the year which finishes at 30:59:59.

Thanks. There is presumably another day that finishes after 28:59:59.

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Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

"Dr John Stockton" wrote in message
...
JRS: In article , dated Mon, 22 Nov 2004
16:54:48, seen in news:uk.transport.london, David A Stocks
posted :

Broadcasters do this all the time - they use clock times that run
06:00:00 -
29:59:59, except one day of the year which finishes at 30:59:59.

Thanks. There is presumably another day that finishes after 28:59:59.

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Correct.

D A Stocks

Possibly so. But I was asking for references or evidence; hard details
- not limited to London or UK, BTW.


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photo of it and email you it. Up to you. Please put "~Odd times" as
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