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In message , Alex
Terrell writes


The Daily Telegraph reports that Eurostar will quit Waterloo in 2007.

I think this is a good idea. Even from Waterloo, it would be quicket
to take the tube to St Pancras and then take a fast Eurostar.

There's no direct tube! It ought to be quicker to take the Jubilee
direct from Waterloo to Stratford and pick-up Eurostar there. However,
the interchange at Stratford looks as though it is going to be poor.


Actually, it won't. If the Stratford International DLR link is mooted,
passengers will have level access from the Jubbly terminus to the
former westbound NLL platform, where they can catch the DLR to the
International station.

You are right about the lack of direct tube services; unfortunately,
the obvious choice of changing at Warren Street requires hiking
through the station. Too bad that Crossrail 3 will be opened after the
sun has burnt out...

Waterloo to King's Cross isn't terrible - if it's done via the
cross-platform interchange at Oxford Circus. However, it's not the most
obvious route (which I reckon, from the tube map, looks like via
Leicester Square). Perhaps they should put up really big signs at
Waterloo...

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

Waterloo to King's Cross isn't terrible - if it's done via the
cross-platform interchange at Oxford Circus. However, it's not the most
obvious route (which I reckon, from the tube map, looks like via
Leicester Square). Perhaps they should put up really big signs at
Waterloo...

I agree. Years ago they had little lights up to show passengers the best
route.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , Dave Arquati
writes

Waterloo to King's Cross isn't terrible - if it's done via the
cross-platform interchange at Oxford Circus.

No, but the point is that there will now be three interchanges each way
where there is now only one.

Six interchanges on a return trip to the continent where there are now
only two.

I fear this will be a big disincentive to use Eurostar.

However, it's not the most obvious route (which I reckon, from the tube
map, looks like via Leicester Square). Perhaps they should put up
really big signs at Waterloo...

For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.

--
Paul Terry

In message , at 07:08:03 on Tue, 16 Nov
2004, Paul Terry remarked:
For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.

The interchange at KX isn't a picnic either. Although I hope they'll do
something about all the stairs as part of the St Pancras upgrade.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:08:03 on Tue, 16 Nov
2004, Paul Terry remarked:

For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.


The interchange at KX isn't a picnic either. Although I hope they'll do
something about all the stairs as part of the St Pancras upgrade.

Unfortunately, completely step-free access from the Tube to St Pancras
depends on the northern ticket hall being built - which depends on money
from government which currently isn't forthcoming.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Problem with Vauxhall is the stairs...

And not all trains stop at Vauxhall.... plus the gap.
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In message , Dave Arquati
writes

Waterloo to King's Cross isn't terrible - if it's done via the
cross-platform interchange at Oxford Circus.

No, but the point is that there will now be three interchanges each way
where there is now only one.

Six interchanges on a return trip to the continent where there are now
only two.

I fear this will be a big disincentive to use Eurostar.

However, it's not the most obvious route (which I reckon, from the tube
map, looks like via Leicester Square). Perhaps they should put up
really big signs at Waterloo...

For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.

--
Paul Terry

For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.

Vauxhall's fine. If you want a crappy interchange, try getting from
the Northern Line to the LB&SC side of London Bridge.

In message , James
writes

For SWT services that stop at Vauxhall, the Victoria line to King's
Cross will be a better bet - but the interchange at Vauxhall, with
luggage, in the rush hour, is an abomination.

Vauxhall's fine.

ROFL!

No lifts. No escalators. No disabled access/ Long rickety staircase
that's so over-crowded you have to wait several minutes to use it in the
rush hour.

Remember that Eurostar passengers are likely to have LUGGAGE - and even
the day trippers tend to come back with a dozen bottles of wine.

--
Paul Terry

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In message , James
writes

Vauxhall's fine.

ROFL!

No lifts. No escalators. No disabled access/ Long rickety staircase that's
so over-crowded you have to wait several minutes to use it in the rush
hour.

At least they have put in a second staircase to platforms 7 and 8 now which
has made things better.

Dave

In message , Dave Liney
writes

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
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In message , James
writes

Vauxhall's fine.

ROFL!

No lifts. No escalators. No disabled access/ Long rickety staircase that's
so over-crowded you have to wait several minutes to use it in the rush
hour.

At least they have put in a second staircase to platforms 7 and 8 now which
has made things better.

Not for people on all the various services that stop at the other
platforms!

--
Paul Terry