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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 12:09:34 on Mon, 15
Nov 2004, Peter Masson remarked:
There's also the question of what to do with all the passenger
accommodation at Waterloo International, waiting rooms, immigration
offices, etc. Would it convert into a shopping mall? ;-)


Half of it is already shops.

Also, the routes through the terminal will have to be considered - while
getting on is relatively straight forward assuming they drop the
last-minute-only boarding scheme, getting off currently involves a
considerable walk through the bowels of the building.


Not necessary once you do away with customs, immigration and insecurity.
build a mezanine over the current sunken area before the barrier line and
have level access to the platforms as per the rest of the station.

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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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once you do away with customs, immigration
and insecurity. build a mezanine over the current
sunken area before the barrier line and have level
access to the platforms as per the rest of the station.


I suspect customs etc at Waterloo will be mothballed rather than removed,
because they will want somewhere to offload Johnny Foreigner if an incident
closes the Stratford / St Pancras line.

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:37:06 -0000, "John Rowland"
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I suspect customs etc at Waterloo will be mothballed rather than removed,
because they will want somewhere to offload Johnny Foreigner if an incident
closes the Stratford / St Pancras line.


Kensington Olympia?

Neil

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I suspect customs etc at Waterloo will be mothballed rather than removed,
because they will want somewhere to offload Johnny Foreigner if an incident
closes the Stratford / St Pancras line.


Kensington Olympia?

Neil




Is there a direct link from Eurostar to Olympia, without reversing at Waterloo?


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Is there a direct link from Eurostar to Olympia, without reversing at Waterloo?


Marc.


When the rail link opens, it'll be via the North London Line.



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Back in May this year I was in a EuroStar train from Paris to London which
appeared to get lost.

At any rate we eventually went in to Kensington Olympia. The carriage doors
remained locked and a tannoy voice said that nobody could get out there
because we had to go thru to Waterloo for Customs and Immigration.

That was bull**** because of course we had done both French and British
Customs at the Gare du Nord in Paris.

After about half an hour of hanging around Olympia we eventually went to
Waterloo. The train did not have to reverse en route.

Once at Waterloo there were no further immigration or Customs checks.
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Is there a direct link from Eurostar to Olympia, without reversing at

Waterloo?


Marc.


When the rail link opens, it'll be via the North London Line.



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"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
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After about half an hour of hanging around Olympia we eventually went to
Waterloo. The train did not have to reverse en route.


You would have definitely reversed at Kensington Olympia. There is no other
way back to Waterloo.

The route that would have been taken from Brixton would have involved
diverging left across Factory Junction, at Wandsworth Road, rather than
continuing over Stewarts Lane flyover, then dropping under the Victoria and
Waterloo lines to gain the northbound West London line at Latchmere
Junctions, then continuing to Olympia. From Olympia the train would have
reversed to Latchmere No. 3 Junction before taking the curve to join the
South Western main line to Waterloo at West London Junction, rejoining the
normal route just after the Stewarts Lane flyover trails in.


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Colin Wilson wrote:

Back in May this year I was in a EuroStar train from Paris to London which
appeared to get lost.

At any rate we eventually went in to Kensington Olympia. The carriage doors
remained locked and a tannoy voice said that nobody could get out there
because we had to go thru to Waterloo for Customs and Immigration.

That was bull**** because of course we had done both French and British
Customs at the Gare du Nord in Paris.


You went through British Immigration at the Gare du Nord but not British
Customs.

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Neil Williams wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:37:06 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote:

I suspect customs etc at Waterloo will be mothballed rather than removed,
because they will want somewhere to offload Johnny Foreigner if an incident
closes the Stratford / St Pancras line.


Kensington Olympia?


Okay, i give up. Why are there customs and immigration facilities at
Kensington Olympia?

tom

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"Tom Anderson" wrote
Okay, i give up. Why are there customs and immigration
facilities at
Kensington Olympia?


They're in the huts and other buildings on the Northbound
platform at Kensington. They were there as a contingency plan,
but so far I think, never used.
Nev




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