On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:57:15 -0000, "Carlos"
wrote:

If you want to create waves, make sure that you get evidence that the
car park was indeed free after 17:30 on the day in question. It is
not unheard of for rules and signs to be changed retrospectively.

Absolutely positive it was free after 17:30 because a) the signs stated so
quite unambiguously b) the machine capped my parking time to 17:30 even
though I had theoretically put enough money to take me to 18:05.

I'm afraid you will have to read with a bit more comprehension and
understand some of the sneakier possibilities if you want a good
chance of getting anywhere.

Please read my paragraph (top) again, and try to understand what I am
saying. I was *not* questioning your assertion that the car park was
in fact free at the time you said it was.

A post to this newsgroup quite a while back described how, after an
accident had occured involving a council vehicle failing to give way,
the signs were changed and road markings repainted on a junction so
that right of way was reversed in favour of the road the council
vehicle had been on.

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Cynic

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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:57:15 -0000, "Carlos"
wrote:

If you want to create waves, make sure that you get evidence that the
car park was indeed free after 17:30 on the day in question. It is
not unheard of for rules and signs to be changed retrospectively.

Absolutely positive it was free after 17:30 because a) the signs stated
so
quite unambiguously b) the machine capped my parking time to 17:30 even
though I had theoretically put enough money to take me to 18:05.

I'm afraid you will have to read with a bit more comprehension and
understand some of the sneakier possibilities if you want a good
chance of getting anywhere.

Please read my paragraph (top) again, and try to understand what I am
saying. I was *not* questioning your assertion that the car park was
in fact free at the time you said it was.

A post to this newsgroup quite a while back described how, after an
accident had occured involving a council vehicle failing to give way,
the signs were changed and road markings repainted on a junction so
that right of way was reversed in favour of the road the council
vehicle had been on.

As he has the ticket which says
1) £1
2) Entry 17:05
3) Expires 17:30

Then they would have to increase pay and display to £2.40 an hour, a 140%
rise would not go unnoticed by the media
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Everything above is the personal opinion of the author, and nothing to do
with where he works and all that lovely disclaimery stuff.
Posted in his lunch hour too.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:15:52 -0000, "Carlos"
wrote:

I parked in a pay-and-display area at 17:05. Put £1 in the machine (charge
is £1/hr) and the ticket came out valid until 17:30 after which time parking
is free. The signage also confirmed that parking is chargeable only between
09:00 - 17:30.

Came back to find a parking ticket, time-stamped at 17:36.

Clearly the parking attendant was trying it on, aware that a certain
percentage probably just pay up. But I want to make a stand and sue the
council for wasting my time.

By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose some
people might think there's logic in that approach, but their probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action you
propose.

Brian

By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose some
people might think there's logic in that approach, but their probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action you
propose.

If I could just rip up the ticket and forget about it then I wouldn't mind
at all.

But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs knocking on
my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the tickets, travelling
to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20 minutes to send it recorded
delivery........ then wait for them to bestow their gracious pardon on my
parking ticket. Of course they may send me back an inane automated rejection
letter which completely misses the point, giving me a further 14 days to
pay... in which case I have to go through the whole rigmarole again sigh

In article , Carlos says...


But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs knocking on
my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the tickets, travelling
to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20 minutes to send it recorded
delivery........

You have to accept it as part of being stupid enough to live in London.


--
Conor

Normality will be restored once we work out what normality actually is.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:37:01 -0000, Conor
wrote:

In article , Carlos says...


But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs knocking on
my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the tickets, travelling
to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20 minutes to send it recorded
delivery........

You have to accept it as part of being stupid enough to live in London.

Not just London.

Had the a similar problem at Luton Station the other day.

Got a ticket from the pea brain attendant there and had to fight it.

Won though

Keith J Chesworth
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Keith J Chesworth wrote:

Not just London.

Had the a similar problem at Luton Station the other day.

Got a ticket from the pea brain attendant there and had to fight it.

Won though

What is the position if the parking restriction is on Railway
property, rather than the public road?

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Carlos wrote:
By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose
some people might think there's logic in that approach, but their
probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action
you propose.

If I could just rip up the ticket and forget about it then I
wouldn't mind at all.

But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs
knocking on my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the
tickets, travelling to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20
minutes to send it recorded delivery...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...
Carlos wrote:
By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose
some people might think there's logic in that approach, but their
probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action
you propose.

If I could just rip up the ticket and forget about it then I
wouldn't mind at all.

But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs
knocking on my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the
tickets, travelling to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20
minutes to send it recorded delivery...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.

The only way to contact them is by post, they obviously prefer to keep irate
drivers at bay.

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Trust me - the phone call doesn't work... the OP is likely to have to go
through what I did - sending photocopies etc...

I encountered a similar situation and considered letting it go through the
system - to court stage if need be and watching them waste their time trying
to persue the penalty charge - then I thought it might not be looked upon so
kindly if the court knew I could have acted to nip it in the bud and didn't.
However the council were not as agreeable as you naively point out - I did
try resolving over the phone - council policy was that everything had to be
in writing with copies of the ticket/permit etc sent in recorded delivery.