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My solution is that people go home earlier.

Fantasic. Why not take it further... people shouldn't go out at all,
and then we wouldn't need buses or a tube and all the roads would be
empty. Problem solved!

But in all seriousness, if there is a demand for public transport late
at night (even if going out late at night isn't *your* cup of tea)
then it seems only sensible that the demand should be satisfied where
possible.


There is a demand for public transport late at night and there are Night
Buses to meet this demand. In the small hours the roads are almost empty
(well maybe not Charing Cross Road) and the buses fly along. I remember
getting from Putney to King's Cross at 3am in a ridiculously quick time;
faster than the tube would have managed it.

Crossing from north to south (and equivalents) used to mean a change of bus
but since almost all of them went to Trafalgar Square that wasn't such a
problem. Out of interest now that is no longer the case are such journeys
harder or easier to make? Since moving out of London I've stopped having to
do it.

There are more night or 24-hour routes since the congestion charge
improvements came in, so I'd say easier. It does depend how far you're
going. You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:


You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.


How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?

Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but accidentally
corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to be Baker Street to
Roehampton.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?

Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but accidentally
corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to be Baker Street to
Roehampton.

Thanks. I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as crossing
the centre either as it happens.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:


Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:


You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?


Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but accidentally
corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to be Baker Street to
Roehampton.


Thanks. I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as crossing
the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey in Zone 1.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Dave Arquati wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?

Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but accidentally
corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to be Baker Street to
Roehampton.

Thanks. I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as crossing
the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey in Zone
1.

Doesn't go anywhere central, though, does it? Hyde Park Corner? Park Lane?
Marble Arch? All distinctly west. You've spent too much time at Kensington
Polytechnic (or whatever it's called these days), young man!

tom

--
Gin makes a man mean; let's booze up and riot!

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Dave Arquati wrote:


Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:


Colin Rosenstiel wrote:


In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:


You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction - Kilburn) which
cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney then?

Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but accidentally
corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to be Baker Street to
Roehampton.

Thanks. I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as crossing
the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey in Zone
1.


Doesn't go anywhere central, though, does it? Hyde Park Corner? Park Lane?
Marble Arch? All distinctly west.

Don't say that to all those bloody tourists queueing at Gloucester Road
on a Saturday morning for day travelcards. They might think their hotels
weren't central enough.

You've spent too much time at Kensington
Polytechnic (or whatever it's called these days), young man!

Well, they didn't produce 14 Nobel laureates by letting the students
stay at home all day...


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Dave Arquati wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

You have routes like the N74 (Roehampton - Putney), N28
(Wandsworth - Camden Town) and N31 (Clapham Junction -
Kilburn) which cross the centre without terminating.

How does the N74 cross the centre between Roehampton and Putney
then?

Oops. I was trying to correct Putney to Roehampton, but
accidentally corrected Baker Street to Roehampton. It's meant to
be Baker Street to Roehampton.

Thanks. I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as
crossing the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey
in Zone 1.

Doesn't go anywhere central, though, does it? Hyde Park Corner?
Park Lane? Marble Arch? All distinctly west.

Considering that Hyde Park Corner was at one time the point from which
distances from London were measured (before being replaced for that task
by Charing Cross), it would seem to eminently central.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as
crossing the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey in
Zone 1.

Doesn't cross Zone 1 and emerge the other side though.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:


I'm not sure I even count Roehampton to Baker Street as
crossing the centre either as it happens.

Depends on your definition of the centre! It enters the congestion
charging zone and it spends a significant portion of its journey in
Zone 1.


Doesn't cross Zone 1 and emerge the other side though.

This could go on for a while. Shall we forget about the N74?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London