When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often a delay of a couple of
minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this where the drivers change over?

P.

"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often
a delay of a couple of minutes, sometimes lasting
up to 10. Is this where the drivers change over?

I don't think so, but it is one of the few places where Circle Line trains
can wait without getting in the way of other trains, so short delays are
deliberately scheduled there to allow late trains to get back on schedule.
I'm not sure about the 10 minute delays though - since the line runs every 8
minutes, this sounds implausible!

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often
a delay of a couple of minutes, sometimes lasting
up to 10. Is this where the drivers change over?

I don't think so, but it is one of the few places where Circle Line trains
can wait without getting in the way of other trains, so short delays are
deliberately scheduled there to allow late trains to get back on schedule.
I'm not sure about the 10 minute delays though - since the line runs every
8
minutes, this sounds implausible!

Ok. Let's say up to 5 minutes occasionally. I only use the Circle line on
the times when the Northern line is scuppered.

In article , John Rowland
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"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often
a delay of a couple of minutes, sometimes lasting
up to 10. Is this where the drivers change over?

I don't think so, but it is one of the few places where Circle Line trains
can wait without getting in the way of other trains, so short delays are
deliberately scheduled there to allow late trains to get back on schedule.
I'm not sure about the 10 minute delays though - since the line runs every 8
minutes, this sounds implausible!

I always find it amazing that waiting 10+ minutes for a circle line is
not abnormal when they run an 8 minute frequency. The number of times I
have stood at Liverpool Street for 5 minutes or more waiting for any
train when there are three services all running a better than 10 minute
frequency! Must be like buses!
--
John Alexander,

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"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often
a delay of a couple of minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this
where the drivers change over?

I don't think so, but it is one of the few places where Circle Line
trains can wait without getting in the way of other trains, so short
delays are deliberately scheduled there to allow late trains to get
back on schedule. I'm not sure about the 10 minute delays though -
since the line runs every 8 minutes, this sounds implausible!


I'm not sure about the current timetable but previous timetables included
some quite long scheduled waits on the Circle when the number of trains on
the line is changed, e.g. at the beginning/end of the peaks.

"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often a delay of a couple of
minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this where the drivers change
over?


Driver's don't change there but trains are timetabled an extended stop to
allow some recovery time as they're the only trains to use the two outside
platforms (normally) and they're the only platforms the Circle doesn't share
with either the Hammersmith & City or the District.

Brimstone wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 25 Nov 2004:


"M Patrick" wrote in message
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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often a delay of a couple of
minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this where the drivers change
over?


Driver's don't change there but trains are timetabled an extended stop to
allow some recovery time as they're the only trains to use the two outside
platforms (normally) and they're the only platforms the Circle doesn't share
with either the Hammersmith & City or the District.


I *thought* they had dedicated platforms at Gloucester Road, too?
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 22 November 2004

Mrs Redboots wrote:
Brimstone wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 25 Nov 2004:


"M Patrick" wrote in message
...
When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often a delay of a
couple of minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this where the
drivers change over?


Driver's don't change there but trains are timetabled an extended
stop to allow some recovery time as they're the only trains to use
the two outside platforms (normally) and they're the only platforms
the Circle doesn't share with either the Hammersmith & City or the
District.


I *thought* they had dedicated platforms at Gloucester Road, too?

Only one, on the Outer Rail.

Brimstone wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 25 Nov 2004:

Mrs Redboots wrote:

I *thought* they had dedicated platforms at Gloucester Road, too?

Only one, on the Outer Rail.

Thanks.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 22 November 2004

Not to change drivers, but to allow them a natural break. Remember that on
other lines, that run end to end, drivers get a few minutes break at
reversing points, which is not the case on the Circle. So a few minutes R&R
is allowed for at Aldgate.


--
Lawrence Myers



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When the circle line gets to Aldgate there is often a delay of a couple of
minutes, sometimes lasting up to 10. Is this where the drivers change
over?

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