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Old December 5th 04, 02:47 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Nick Cooper wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 5 Dec 2004:

c) Go **** yourself, you ****, because what I put in my sig is none of
your ****ing business.


a) There is no need to be coarse

b) If the contents of your .sig is not our business, why bother having
one?

c) Some people are still on dial-up accounts, so it is only courteous to
save bandwidth.
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:47:44 +0000, Mrs Redboots
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Nick Cooper wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 5 Dec 2004:

c) Go **** yourself, you ****, because what I put in my sig is none of
your ****ing business.


a) There is no need to be coarse


Some professional argument-starters deserve nothing else.

b) If the contents of your .sig is not our business, why bother having
one?


It is not the business of one individual - clearly with nothing better
to do with their miserable excuse for a "life" - who has taken it upon
themself to hassle others. It's notable that "Huge" choses to hide
its Usenet posting history, but it can hardly be said to be prolific
on this NG, having arrived only recently with a clear trouble-causing
agenda. It hides behind a fake e-mail address and an anonymously-
registered domain, so clearly it is a coward which doesn't even have
the courage of its own convictions.

c) Some people are still on dial-up accounts, so it is only courteous to
save bandwidth.


As I pointed out, characterwise my signature is not even five complete
lines of text, and is therefore under the six-line "recommended"
limit. The URLs are on separate lines for the obvious reasons.
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:07:43 GMT,
(Nick Cooper) wrote:


As I pointed out, characterwise my signature is not even five complete
lines of text, and is therefore under the six-line "recommended"
limit. The URLs are on separate lines for the obvious reasons.


In direct contravention to RFC 1855

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html


- If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb
is no longer than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for
connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
the more they pay.


Attempting to excuse your lack of netiquette by claiming that its not
really 10 lines long doesn't wash I'm afraid.


Your .sig delimiter is also non compliant.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter

Internet signatures in mail and news should begin with the character
sequence
DASH DASH SPACE EOL






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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:13:58 +0000, Greg Hennessy
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:07:43 GMT,
(Nick Cooper) wrote:


As I pointed out, characterwise my signature is not even five complete
lines of text, and is therefore under the six-line "recommended"
limit. The URLs are on separate lines for the obvious reasons.


In direct contravention to RFC 1855

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html


Almost ten years old now - formulated at a time when things were a lot
different in a lot of respects.

- If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb
is no longer than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for
connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
the more they pay.


"Rule of thumb." Also note use of, "Guidelines," and, "This memo does
not specify an Internet standard of any kind."

Attempting to excuse your lack of netiquette by claiming that its not
really 10 lines long doesn't wash I'm afraid.


Tough. Maybe you'd like me to replace it with a solid block of text
that would be exactly the same number of characters, but a lot less
clear?

Your .sig delimiter is also non compliant.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter

Internet signatures in mail and news should begin with the character
sequence
DASH DASH SPACE EOL


Point accepted and corrected, although it seemed to "work" as it was,
anyway.
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:34:10 GMT,
(Nick Cooper) wrote:



In direct contravention to RFC 1855

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

Almost ten years old now - formulated at a time when things were a lot
different in a lot of respects.


The age is irrelevant. Do you suggest that the RFCs for tcp and smtp are
somehow different/out of date due to their age ?

Not everyone has access to clever newsreaders which can auto clip
signatures, or read news through a gui.

Broadband is still a luxury for a lot of folks.


Tough. Maybe you'd like me to replace it with a solid block of text
that would be exactly the same number of characters, but a lot less
clear?


What you replace it with is irrelevant. The facts are is that you are
exceeding what is deemed 'polite' by 2.5 times.

We've all been there.

Your .sig delimiter is also non compliant.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StandardSigDelimiter

Internet signatures in mail and news should begin with the character
sequence
DASH DASH SPACE EOL


Point accepted and corrected, although it seemed to "work" as it was,
anyway.


Depends on the news reader, some are a mite more forgiving than others.


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Greg Hennessy wrote:

The age is irrelevant. Do you suggest that the RFCs for tcp and smtp are
somehow different/out of date due to their age ?


No, they are still active Internet Standards. The document you quote was
never an Internet Standard.
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:52:12 +0000, Michael Hoffman
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Greg Hennessy wrote:

The age is irrelevant. Do you suggest that the RFCs for tcp and smtp are
somehow different/out of date due to their age ?


No, they are still active Internet Standards. The document you quote was
never an Internet Standard.


Nonsense,

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc793.html

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc821.html




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