"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:41:47 on Tue,
14 Dec 2004, John Rowland
remarked:
In Nottingham a road crosses an adjacent railway
and tramline. I think that both lines are single track,
being a former double track railway, but I might be
wrong there.

Both are double track.
The tramline has been newly built to the west.

Thanks.

There are barriers around the railway but the tramway
is ungated - this is because the tramline is too frequent
to have a gated crossing.

The trams don't have barriers at any road
"crossing", that's the way trams are.

It was originally proposed that the tramline would be inside the barriers.
This was scrapped because of the high frequency of the trams.

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Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
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A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In message , at 09:53:42 on Fri,
17 Dec 2004, John Rowland
remarked:
It was originally proposed that the tramline would be inside the barriers.
This was scrapped because of the high frequency of the trams.

There's about one every 8 minutes - hardly "high" frequency. But as I
said, there are no barriers at any of the other hundred or so places
that the tram intersects a road, so why would this one be special?
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:53:42 on Fri,
17 Dec 2004, John Rowland
remarked:
It was originally proposed that the tramline would be inside the barriers.
This was scrapped because of the high frequency of the trams.

There's about one every 8 minutes - hardly "high" frequency. But as I
said, there are no barriers at any of the other hundred or so places
that the tram intersects a road, so why would this one be special?

I understood the concern was that cars might queue across the tramline
when the heavy rail barriers came down. This is a very busy crossing for
road traffic. I didn't read why this one ended up with barriers only for
heavy rail, yet the less busy one at Carey Road has the tramline inside
the barriers. The latter crossing is of course two single tracks where
David Lane is two double tracks. I could well believe it was just the
ease of conversion, keeping the barriers in the same place as when the
Robin Hood line occuppied the whole trackbed.

Nick
--
http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself

"Nick Leverton" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:53:42 on Fri,
17 Dec 2004, John Rowland
remarked:
It was originally proposed that the tramline
would be inside the barriers. This was scrapped
because of the high frequency of the trams.

There's about one every 8 minutes - hardly "high"
frequency. But as I said, there are no barriers at
any of the other hundred or so places that the tram
intersects a road, so why would this one be special?

I understood the concern was that cars might queue
across the tramline when the heavy rail barriers came down.
This is a very busy crossing for road traffic. I didn't read why
this one ended up with barriers only for heavy rail, yet the less
busy one at Carey Road has the tramline inside the barriers.
The latter crossing is of course two single tracks where
David Lane is two double tracks. I could well believe it was
just the ease of conversion, keeping the barriers in the same
place as when the Robin Hood line occuppied the whole trackbed.

That may be an issue, but AFAIK the main issue was that there is a tram
junction between the two crossings, and one of the crossings has
significantly more trams than the other. At the crossing with fewer trams,
the tramlines are inside the barriers, whereas at the crossing with more
trams the tram tracks were required to be outside the barriers, pothrerwise
the barriers would be closed for too much of the time.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
just the ease of conversion, keeping the barriers in the same
place as when the Robin Hood line occuppied the whole trackbed.

That may be an issue, but AFAIK the main issue was that there is a tram
junction between the two crossings, and one of the crossings has
significantly more trams than the other. At the crossing with fewer trams,
the tramlines are inside the barriers, whereas at the crossing with more
trams the tram tracks were required to be outside the barriers, pothrerwise
the barriers would be closed for too much of the time.

One of the pics referred to somewhere up there said the latter barriers
went up and down like a bride's nightie .... *searching wildly for utl
relevance* It's a good thing TABAWTKB didn't have a level crossing !

Nick
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http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself