"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
...
couldn't reward someone who worked really well over and above standard
union rates without paying everybody the same, even those who didn't
deserve it - so the good workers didn't get as much money as he would
have liked them to!

This is teh crux of "everyones equal" socialism

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Everything above is the personal opinion of the author, and nothing to do
with where he works and all that lovely disclaimery stuff.
Posted in his lunch hour too.

On 15 Dec 2004 03:24:27 -0800, "Boltar"
wrote:

Says it all:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4095303.stm
I've had enough of these arseholes. Why can't the goverment step in to
sort these militants out like they did with other industries and if
they won't play ball then just fire the ****ing lot of them. A few
weeks pain as new non unionised drivers are trained will be worth it in
the long run IMO.

As much as I agree with your position, Londoners *had* the chance to
do someting about this.

Steve Norris made it clear he'd remove Bob Crow from the Board of TfL
(I think TfL - or was the Undergound?) and make the RMT an offer that
they'd be mad to refuse.

Instead Londoners voted Red Ken back in.

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Cheers,

Jason.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:22:03 +0000, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

I did hear that the militants sometimes - and I'm sure this can't be
true in all cases - cause meetings to spin out for hours and hours until
all the moderates go home in despair and boredom, and the militants take
control.... intimidating any remaining moderates off the committees....
I don't suppose this is still true today, but it may well have been in
the days when the unions held the nations to ransom!

You've been observing Unison meetings in certain University of London
colleges haven't you? ;-)

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Cheers,

Jason.

In article , Mait001
writes
So you think it's okay for drivers to pass red signals?

No.

However, I don't think it's okay for drivers to be convicted in kangaroo
courts either.

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In message , Jason
writes

Steve Norris made it clear he'd remove Bob Crow from the Board of TfL
(I think TfL - or was the Undergound?)

Bob Crowe resigned from the board of tfl last June:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/3838961.stm

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Paul Terry

In article , Mait001
writes
So you think it's okay for drivers to pass red signals?

No.

However, I don't think it's okay for drivers to be convicted in kangaroo
courts either.

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Clive D.W. Feather

I may be wrong, but surely the fact of having passed signals at red is not in
dispute - merely the "sentence" that ought to be imposed. That being so, your
reference to "convicted in kangaroo courts" is otiose.

Marc.

"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...
The only reason that we have unions at all is because of crap
managers. If
the people running a business treated the workforce as well as they
wish to
be treated themselves there wouldn't be a need for unions.

Well thats the clincher isn't it. What is "as well as they wish to be
treated"?

So you admit you don't understand English? Try reading the whole sentence.

We'd all like to just sit at home and be mailed cheques every month but
lifes
not like that and part of being an adult is realising that you can't
get something
for nothing and get away with making a mess and suffer no consequences.

Its a lesson that the RMT and Aslef don't seem to have learnt yet.

Who said anything about getting paid for doing nothing? You really do have
an overactive imagination.

"Boltar" wrote in message
ups.com...
Yeah, right. It's got nothing to do with the fact the average worker
in
China gets paid 67p a day! Are you volunteering to take on that kind
of
wage to restore the manufacturing base of the UK?

France, germany, italy etc sitll have viable large scale car
manufacturers,
train builders etc. Hmm , wonder why that is. Could it be the workers
actually got on with doing their job instead of farting about on a
picket
line?

No, it's because they have massive (and usually illegal) state subsidy. Are
you advocating this or denying this? British Leyland (Rover) never went
bankrupt whilst it was being banked by the government (Of course, the
government almost did).

In message , Paul Weaver
writes

Yes, it is. They give their months notice and leave (They could leave
right now, but that'd be a breach of contract and they would forfit a
decent reference for sure).

But do they? No! Of course they dont. Instead they get a few millitants
to brainwash members and bully those that want to work (and those that
arent members of the mob)
What rubbish. When I was on the tube I kept my A.S.L.E.F. membership
and was never hassled on the days the N.U.T. struck. And although I've
never manned a picket line in my life I'm sure the opposite was true
when we went on strike and the N.U.T. didn't.
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Clive.

In message , Malcolm & Nika
writes
Mrs Redboots...thats the way the old urban myths start isnt it? You can
say anything you like but put a proviso on it...soon its repeated
without the proviso...just like the story about the 52 days holidays,
its not true but
hey it sounds good.
Think i'll start a few myself......
I did hear that the public sometimes - and I'm sure this can't be true
in
all cases........
Insert anything here.
Insist on using the tube during strike days when normally wild horses
wouldn't drag them out of their cars.
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Clive.