Scripsit Alan Osborn

IN 2000 another Bridge/Tunnel was constructed linking Denmark with
Sweden (Malmo) which no doubts means the existing ferry between
Helsingor (Denmark) and Helsingborg (Sweden) might soon be history

It's already history as far as carrying trains go. The track to the
ferry berth at Helsingborg has been paved over, and I'm fairly certain
the track at Helsingør has been removed too.

The automobile-carrying business goes on unabated, however. Despite
the bridge, the route through Helsingør-Helsingborg is quicker and
cheaper for car journeys between most of Copenhagen and points in
Sweden north of Helsingborg.


The bridge link did kill of a number of ferry routes further south in
the Sound: The car ferries Dragør-Limhamn and Tuborg-Landskrona, as
well as the passenger-only catamarans between Copenhagen and Malmö
city centres.

--
Henning Makholm "*Vi vil ha wienerbrød!*"

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:19:28 +0000, Henning Makholm
wrote:

Scripsit Alan Osborn

IN 2000 another Bridge/Tunnel was constructed linking Denmark with
Sweden (Malmo) which no doubts means the existing ferry between
Helsingor (Denmark) and Helsingborg (Sweden) might soon be history

I used the Helsingør-Helsingborg ferry in the days before the bridge
at Malmo with journeys starting in Sweden. The return journeys were a
nightmare as the ferries were packed with drunk Swedes who were taking
advantage of the cheaper alcohol prices in Denmark. I don't know if
it's still as bad but I recommend welly boots if you take the trip!

Paul

wrote:

I used the Helsingør-Helsingborg ferry in the days before the bridge
at Malmo with journeys starting in Sweden. The return journeys were a
nightmare as the ferries were packed with drunk Swedes who were taking
advantage of the cheaper alcohol prices in Denmark. I don't know if
it's still as bad but I recommend welly boots if you take the trip!

I have been across the bridge three times - twice on trains and once on
a coach. Also been across the ferry once too, but didn't see many
drunken Swedes - perhaps the unearthly hour of the crossings (5am-ish)
might be to blame!

Also been across the Putgarden-Roedby ferry a few times and although I
didn't see any trains on the ferry (again, unearthly hours!) I was
surprised to see the tracks leading up and on to the ferry. I wonder how
they manage the marry the tracks on the ferry to the tracks on the land?

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.jstott.me.uk/weather/

"Jonathan Stott" wrote in message
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wrote:

I used the Helsingør-Helsingborg ferry in the days before the bridge
at Malmo with journeys starting in Sweden. The return journeys were a
nightmare as the ferries were packed with drunk Swedes who were taking
advantage of the cheaper alcohol prices in Denmark. I don't know if
it's still as bad but I recommend welly boots if you take the trip!

I have been across the bridge three times - twice on trains and once on
a coach. Also been across the ferry once too, but didn't see many
drunken Swedes - perhaps the unearthly hour of the crossings (5am-ish)
might be to blame!

Also been across the Putgarden-Roedby ferry a few times and although I
didn't see any trains on the ferry (again, unearthly hours!) I was
surprised to see the tracks leading up and on to the ferry. I wonder how
they manage the marry the tracks on the ferry to the tracks on the land?

I believe via a ramp, the Ladybird book said that the low tidal variation
made this possible on the Continent but not the UK (although Harwich was a
ramp IIRC)
I used the through train on this route in 1983 on an Inter-Rail, if you
stayed on board there was no need to buy a ferry ticket; you could of course
alight on board.

MartinM wrote:
"Jonathan Stott" wrote in message
...

Also been across the Putgarden-Roedby ferry a few times and
although I
didn't see any trains on the ferry (again, unearthly hours!) I was
surprised to see the tracks leading up and on to the ferry. I
wonder how
they manage the marry the tracks on the ferry to the tracks on the
land?

I believe via a ramp, the Ladybird book said that the low tidal
variation
made this possible on the Continent but not the UK (although Harwich
was a
ramp IIRC)

It's called a linkspan. It is vertically flexible, but where the tidal
variation is too extreme it operates inside a lock, as it did at
Dunkerque prior to the opening of the new berth for the Nord Pas de
Calais.

I used the through train on this route in 1983 on an Inter-Rail, if
you
stayed on board there was no need to buy a ferry ticket; you could of
course
alight on board.

Inter Rail and any other through rail tickets are usually valid on
ferry routes which are included in the CIV, train ferry or not.

The Vogelfluglinie (Puttgarden - Roedby) ferries used to be renowned
for their food. Both DB and DSB ferries offered a single plate version
of a Smoergasbord, but it was a challenge to eat it all before arriving
at the other end. The food on the German Ferries (the Deutschland in
particular) was better than that on the Danish ones, IME.

Cheers

Mike