Huge wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 11 Jan 2005:

Mrs Redboots writes:

Okay, trains can be stressy,
but far less so than driving

Nonsense.

No, what you mean is "I haven't found this to be so."
I am delighted to hear it, but it does not resonate with my husband's
experience of commuting.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 2 January 2005

The impersonal season tickets suggested by other posters seem like a
good solution, but it's a shame they're priced at a premium. Travelcard
season tickets in London have just changed so that one doesn't need a
photocard. If you live close to the zone 6 boundary, could this be a
solution, maybe combined with a cheap single to the boundary?

Or are there any coach operators to London that sell season tickets
without requiring a photocard?

Dominic

wrote:

The impersonal season tickets suggested by other posters seem like a
good solution, but it's a shame they're priced at a premium.
Travelcard season tickets in London have just changed so that one
doesn't need a photocard. If you live close to the zone 6 boundary,
could this be a solution, maybe combined with a cheap single to the
boundary?

Or are there any coach operators to London that sell season tickets
without requiring a photocard?

Most of them, I think.

They just sell books of use-anytime tickets (at a discount), a bit like the
Paris Metro.

wrote:
I'm always amused by people who choose to travel large distances to
and
from work every day, then mutter about being 'environmentally
friendly'.

Mark

Another ivory tower commentator. I have never known anybody who does
long commutes by choice.

Kevin

In article .com,
wrote:
Another ivory tower commentator. I have never known anybody who does
long commutes by choice.

They all do.

The fact that long distance commuters consider the alternatives
unpalatable does not negate the fact that they made a choice not
to move closer to work, get a job closer to home or work in the
first place.

--
Mike Bristow - really a very good driver

Mike Bristow wrote:
The fact that long distance commuters consider the alternatives
unpalatable does not negate the fact that they made a choice not
to move closer to work, get a job closer to home or work in the
first place.

Indeed. I have no problem with people making that choice, but having
them then complain about others not being 'environmentally friendly' is
a joke.

Mark

wrote:

Another ivory tower commentator. I have never known anybody who does
long commutes by choice.

I knew a chap who was recruited to work in our offices in central
London; he lived in Grantham. Although he was offered financial
assistance for a house move (this was in the 1980s, when it was a
practical proposition) he chose to commute daily into Kings Cross; as
far as I know, he still does.

--
John Ray

Mike Bristow wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 12 Jan 2005:

The fact that long distance commuters consider the alternatives
unpalatable does not negate the fact that they made a choice not
to move closer to work, get a job closer to home or work in the
first place.

In this day and age? You're joking! Don't forget, husband often works
in one place, wife in another, then there are issues such as children's
schooling, negative equity, etc. Plus when you get to 50+ you hang on
to your job for all you're worth, as you can't get another.... and so it
goes. IBM stands for "I've Been Moved", don't forget.

Anyway, define "Long-Distance"? Some people really do think a journey
of 50 miles or more is worth it - I wouldn't, but.....
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 2 January 2005

Steve Firth wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 12 Jan 2005:

Mrs Redboots wrote:

Huge wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 11 Jan 2005:

Mrs Redboots writes:

Okay, trains can be stressy,
but far less so than driving

Nonsense.

No, what you mean is "I haven't found this to be so."
I am delighted to hear it, but it does not resonate with my husband's
experience of commuting.

So your truism is more true than his truism? Have you eaver heard of the
term "logical fallacy"? Because you appear to be trying for some sort of
record in uttering them.

Why is it a logical fallacy to say that my husband finds taking the
train to work both faster and less stressy than driving? I don't see
that it is a truism when one is speaking from personal (or at any rate,
spousal) experience.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 2 January 2005

In article , Mrs Redboots says...

Why is it a logical fallacy to say that my husband finds taking the
train to work both faster and less stressy than driving?

He doesn't find it less stressful. What he does do however is to
conveniently forget to tell you about:
The daily fight to get a seat
The fact he has a daily broadsheet delivered so he can bury his head in
it to save having to talk to other people on the train.
The daily crush that is the platform experience.
The stress of wondering if your train is actually going to be running
and then if it is, if it'll arrive on time.


--
Conor

An imperfect plan executed violently is far superior to a perfect plan.
-- George Patton