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Conor wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 12 Jan 2005:
In article , Mrs Redboots says... Why is it a logical fallacy to say that my husband finds taking the train to work both faster and less stressy than driving? He doesn't find it less stressful. What he does do however is to conveniently forget to tell you about: The daily fight to get a seat He takes a bicycle, so always stands beside it. The fact he has a daily broadsheet delivered so he can bury his head in it to save having to talk to other people on the train. He reads Metro, if anything. The daily crush that is the platform experience. As he doesn't normally arrive at the station until the train is actually pulling in (and occasionally, if he times it wrong, pulling out!), that does not apply. The stress of wondering if your train is actually going to be running and then if it is, if it'll arrive on time. This is what the National Rail Live Departure Boards are designed to address, particularly for his evening journey, since he works within a couple of minutes' cycle ride of Redhill station. Even I have learnt to check them now so know whether or not he'll be late (r than usual!). -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 2 January 2005 |
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Huge wrote:
Mike Bristow writes: wrote: Another ivory tower commentator. I have never known anybody who does long commutes by choice. They all do. The fact that long distance commuters consider the alternatives unpalatable does not negate the fact that they made a choice not to move closer to work, get a job closer to home or work in the first place. I suppose if the point of this debate is pedantic hair-splitting, The point of my comment was that you are the master of your own destiny. Blaming your long distance commute on anyone other than yourself seems to be an attempt to blame "them" for things that only you can control. then you're right. Meanwhile, in the real world, I think you'll find that most long-distance commuters are between a rock and a hard place. Yes. But it's up to you to pick the rock ;-) -- Mike Bristow - really a very good driver |
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writes I find cyclists on trains less than amusing. How do you regard those of us who take folding bikes, such as the Brompton? (See http://www.bromptonbicycle.co.uk if you're unsure of what I'm on about.) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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![]() Huge wrote: Ian Jelf writes: In message , Huge writes I find cyclists on trains less than amusing. How do you regard those of us who take folding bikes, such as the Brompton? As long as it's in it's bag, why not? What I object to is those who are permitted to take something on the train that is sharp and dirty and takes up the room of two people for free, merely because it happens to be a bicycle. Typical! This unashamed 4x4 user is now cycle bashing. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net "Democracy is just another way of controlling and exploiting people". |
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In message , Huge
writes Ian Jelf writes: In message , Huge writes I find cyclists on trains less than amusing. How do you regard those of us who take folding bikes, such as the Brompton? As long as it's in it's bag, why not? Yes, I always keep mine in the bag, if only to avoid questions about it! :-) That said, I've never actually taken mine on a deep-level tube, only on the sub surface lines. Plenty of other people do though (usually without bags, although the Brompton folds so well that projecting "sharp bits" aren't as much of a problem as you might think). -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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Huge wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 12 Jan 2005:
In reply to me: He takes a bicycle, so always stands beside it. Occupying the space of three people while paying for one. No, using the space provided by the TOC for that purpose. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 2 January 2005 |
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Derek * wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 12 Jan 2005:
All right then. The thought of *all* the passengers on a train into Waterloo (say) taking a bicycle on the train with them amused me. Which is why you aren't allowed to take bikes on London-bound trains in the morning peak, nor on country-bound trains in the evening one. Off peak, or reverse commuting, there's no problem. Anyway, if more than the 3 or so people who do take bikes on the train did so regularly, I expect the TOCs would provide space for more than about 3 bikes. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 2 January 2005 |
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