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![]() Neil Williams wrote: On 13 Jan 2005 22:45:33 -0800, wrote: Before privatisation most trains had guard/luggage vans where bikes could be stored. Now only a few remaining slam door trains have them. Pity also the poor traveller with lots of luggage and nowhere to put it on a train. Yet another example of market forces driven profit before people. Twaddle. New trains have, for a long period, not had guard's vans, even under BR. This is nothing to do with "profit before people", but is merely because passenger trains no longer carry newspapers, parcels and post so the space is really not needed. New trains mainly came in after privatisation. Before the BR had been run down. Cyclists and people with lots of luggage still need the space. Those who do need it (cyclists, those with luggage and wheelchair users) are better served by distributed space in the passenger saloon Sure! Crammed in with standing passengers near the doors. or vestibule, because in the former case they can keep an eye on their bike or luggage, while in the latter they can travel in suitable accommodation and not in what feels like the back of a lorry. When I use the few remaining guard's vans I sit in the adjacent compartment with other travellers. Cycling groups are constantly at odds with TOs over the modern lack of provision. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net "Democracy is just another way of controlling and exploiting people". |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Neil Williams wrote: On 13 Jan 2005 22:45:33 -0800, wrote: Before privatisation most trains had guard/luggage vans where bikes could be stored. Now only a few remaining slam door trains have them. Pity also the poor traveller with lots of luggage and nowhere to put it on a train. Yet another example of market forces driven profit before people. Twaddle. New trains have, for a long period, not had guard's vans, even under BR. This is nothing to do with "profit before people", but is merely because passenger trains no longer carry newspapers, parcels and post so the space is really not needed. New trains mainly came in after privatisation. Before the BR had been run down. Cyclists and people with lots of luggage still need the space. Those who do need it (cyclists, those with luggage and wheelchair users) are better served by distributed space in the passenger saloon Sure! Crammed in with standing passengers near the doors. or vestibule, because in the former case they can keep an eye on their bike or luggage, while in the latter they can travel in suitable accommodation and not in what feels like the back of a lorry. When I use the few remaining guard's vans I sit in the adjacent compartment with other travellers. Cycling groups are constantly at odds with TOs over the modern lack of provision. Using a train and a bicycle ? bit OTT that, smacks of hypermobility. I use just one car, no need for all the other forms of transport being used at the same time. Plus I can get big suitcases in it. |
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