Boltar wrote:
completely full. The only surprise was that an all-day Rover was now
5GBP instead of 4GBP

Ongar - North weald. North weald - ongar. Well , thats its for the
all day roving.
Well worth a fiver. *cough*


Ongar - North Weald - Coopersale - North Weald - Ongar.
North Weald - Coopersale - North Weald - Ongar - North Weald.
Rinse and repeat.

*shrug*

At least you get to see the M11, the nearby golf course and Coopersale
village.

B2003

TheOneKEA wrote:
At least you get to see the M11, the nearby golf course and
Coopersale
village.

I still don't see what they have to offer. If the trip itself was so
interesting LU would have never shut down the branch as it would be
full
of sightseers. But it isn't. Its fairly drab essex countryside. That
leaves the rolling stock. A single DMU. Hmm. Well if thats what floats
your boat fair enough, but personally only a few decent steam trains
would persuade me to visit and even then there are far more interesting
preserved lines not far outside the M25 such as the Bluebell, K&ES etc.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
TheOneKEA wrote:
At least you get to see the M11, the nearby golf course and
Coopersale
village.

I still don't see what they have to offer. If the trip itself was so
interesting LU would have never shut down the branch as it would be
full
of sightseers. But it isn't. Its fairly drab essex countryside. That
leaves the rolling stock. A single DMU. Hmm. Well if thats what
floats
your boat fair enough, but personally only a few decent steam trains
would persuade me to visit and even then there are far more
interesting
preserved lines not far outside the M25 such as the Bluebell, K&ES
etc.

B2003

The bit running through Epping Forest can be beautiful, especially in
the snow (not that we've had much lately!). And the
http://www.eorailway.co.uk/ website says they're planning to build a
new shed for servicing steam locos, so you may get your wish Boltar.

However, still no news of Essex County Council's progress on buying the
line or from the Peoples' Front of Judea ..... sorry, I mean the OTHER
railway preservation society (see http://www.ongar-railway.org.uk )
that wants to run the line. Now that the landowners appear to be
willing to sell to the Council isn't it time these two preservation
groups made peace and joined forces? Or has too much water (and too
few trains) gone under the M11 bridge?

umpston wrote:

The bit running through Epping Forest can be beautiful, especially in
the snow (not that we've had much lately!). And the
http://www.eorailway.co.uk/ website says they're planning to build a
new shed for servicing steam locos, so you may get your wish Boltar.

Indeed. The volunteer I spoke to stated that the EORL has already laid
down 10K GBP towards the purchase of a shed structure. However, unless
the DMU was to be push/pull worked by the loco, you're going to need
steam-compatible LHCS as well; this means that more money and volunteer
work is needed to build sidings to store said coaches. Thus, even if a
loco is had, it may not mean that steam workings can resume.

Either way, it will certainly increase the passenger numbers, which are
already increasing :-)


However, still no news of Essex County Council's progress on buying
the line or from the Peoples' Front of Judea ..... sorry, I mean the
OTHER railway preservation society
(see http://www.ongar-railway.org.uk)
that wants to run the line. Now that the landowners appear to be
willing to sell to the Council isn't it time these two preservation
groups made peace and joined forces? Or has too much water (and too
few trains) gone under the M11 bridge?

I get the impression that everything is a big muddle.

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
umpston wrote:

The bit running through Epping Forest can be beautiful, especially in
the snow (not that we've had much lately!). And the
http://www.eorailway.co.uk/ website says they're planning to build a
new shed for servicing steam locos, so you may get your wish Boltar.

Indeed. The volunteer I spoke to stated that the EORL has already laid
down 10K GBP towards the purchase of a shed structure. However, unless
the DMU was to be push/pull worked by the loco, you're going to need
steam-compatible LHCS as well; this means that more money and volunteer
work is needed to build sidings to store said coaches. Thus, even if a
loco is had, it may not mean that steam workings can resume.

Either way, it will certainly increase the passenger numbers, which are
already increasing :-)


However, still no news of Essex County Council's progress on buying
the line or from the Peoples' Front of Judea ..... sorry, I mean the
OTHER railway preservation society
(see http://www.ongar-railway.org.uk)
that wants to run the line. Now that the landowners appear to be
willing to sell to the Council isn't it time these two preservation
groups made peace and joined forces? Or has too much water (and too
few trains) gone under the M11 bridge?

I get the impression that everything is a big muddle.


I agree - but if both of these groups could find a way to settle their
differences (which will surely be lessened once the land ownership is
resolved) I reckon they'd find both volunteers and funding easier to come
by. I'm sure at the moment many people are reluctant to get involved
because of this uncertainty. And a united approach to Essex County Council
might ease the process of obtaining their lease to run the line.

On 9 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "TheOneKEA" wrote:

umpston wrote:

The bit running through Epping Forest can be beautiful, especially in
the snow (not that we've had much lately!). And the
http://www.eorailway.co.uk/ website says they're planning to build a
new shed for servicing steam locos, so you may get your wish Boltar.

Indeed. The volunteer I spoke to stated that the EORL has already laid
down 10K GBP towards the purchase of a shed structure. However, unless
the DMU was to be push/pull worked by the loco, you're going to need
steam-compatible LHCS as well; this means that more money and volunteer
work is needed to build sidings to store said coaches. Thus, even if a
loco is had, it may not mean that steam workings can resume.


Aren't they going to relay the line so they can use all those Finnish
locos and rolling stock?

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PRAR wrote:
On 9 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "TheOneKEA"
wrote:

umpston wrote:

The bit running through Epping Forest can be beautiful, especially
in
the snow (not that we've had much lately!). And the
http://www.eorailway.co.uk/ website says they're planning to build
a
new shed for servicing steam locos, so you may get your wish
Boltar.

Indeed. The volunteer I spoke to stated that the EORL has already
laid
down 10K GBP towards the purchase of a shed structure. However,
unless
the DMU was to be push/pull worked by the loco, you're going to need
steam-compatible LHCS as well; this means that more money and
volunteer
work is needed to build sidings to store said coaches. Thus, even if
a
loco is had, it may not mean that steam workings can resume.


Aren't they going to relay the line so they can use all those Finnish
locos and rolling stock?

No. They're just to look at.

"PRAR" wrote in message
...

Aren't they going to relay the line so they can use all those Finnish
locos and rolling stock?

With the Regional Spatial Strategy putting forward proposals for 6,000
dwellings at North Weald as a sustainable community, you might find Prescott
placing a bit of pressure on Livingstone to re-extend that Central Line..

Ian Harper wrote:

With the Regional Spatial Strategy putting forward proposals for
6,000 dwellings at North Weald as a sustainable community, you might
find Prescott placing a bit of pressure on Livingstone to re-extend
that Central Line..

And send trains where?

Suppose the line is upgraded with a substation at Ongar, new P/Way, and
double track as far as North Weald (or even just the passing loop at
North Weald). Where would you send the trains on the line?

If a serious attempt to get through traffic ever materialized, you
would need through services at least as far as Loughton or Woodford (or
even Leytonstone!) to make the whole exercise worthwhile. Otherwise you
might as well rebuild Epping with an island platform.

This of course is all dependent on porcine flight, mind...

In article .com,
(TheOneKEA) wrote:

At least you get to see the M11

Can you see the line from the M11? I can't say I noticed it when driving
to and from London the other Sunday. I saw the Central Line overbridge
further South.

--
Colin Rosenstiel