Dave Newt wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

Thanks very much for the explanation.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.


On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

You're right - they *must* have changed it. It always was with a comma.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL


Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

I think it was the "-2002" part of their history that they wanted to
distance themselves from!

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Dave Newt wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
[...] However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was
founded"). Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one
instance on their site where the comma is included.

You're right - they *must* have changed it. It always was with a comma.

There was a consultation about the name a few months ago: everyone got a
questionnaire with things like "How do refer to UCL to other people inside
it?", "Ditto but for people outside?", "What qualities do you associate
with the name?" and other inane marketroid nonsense. This was clearly
intended to provide input into some brand-sharpening exercise, so perhaps
that's when the comma was disappeared.

tom

--
Restate my assumptions

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:52:17 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

"How do refer to UCL to other people inside it?", "Ditto but for
people outside?", "What qualities do you associate with the name?"

I suppose they'd have been annoyed if you said they were ucly
qualities...

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Richard J. wrote:

Quite right too.Â*Â*SomeÂ*ofÂ*usÂ*haveÂ*fondÂ*memoriesÂ*ofÂ*a *companyÂ*calledÂ*ICL,
1968-2002.

Didn't they bring out a computer based on the QL, called the "One born every
minute" or something?
--
Ian Tindale

Ian Tindale wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called
ICL, 1968-2002.

Didn't they bring out a computer based on the QL, called the "One
born every minute" or something?

The OPD (One Per Desk), vintage 1984.
Details at http://web.onetel.com/~rodritab/shed16.htm and other sites.
Screen shots at http://www.whimsy.demon.co.uk/opd/ .
My memories of the OPD are a bit sub-fond, though.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

In my day UCCA called it Limp. :-)

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:07 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Colin Rosenstiel
wrote:

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

In my day UCCA called it Limp. :-)



*laughs*


I still dunno what I'm going to do when Southside shuts. They had Old Tom
on tap today.