"Graham J" wrote in
:


Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones
1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as
well carry on buying paper tickets?

You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although
I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as
it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket.

G.


Is this one of the things that will change on Feb 27th? Or does capping
limit pre-pay deductions to the cost of a travelcard but not actually
create a travelcard (and thus not valid on national rail unless you could
use pre-pay for the journey you are making)?

I hope the lack of information on offical tfl sites does not mean the
details are still being worked out...

David

In message 0, David
Jackman writes

You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although
I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as
it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket.

Is this one of the things that will change on Feb 27th? Or does capping
limit pre-pay deductions to the cost of a travelcard but not actually
create a travelcard

Surely 'capping' means what it says - capping (restricting) the cost.

If the announcement meant that you could go further and put a full-blown
one-day travelcard onto an Oyster, it would surely have said so - and
would have been much more dramatic as a result!

--
Paul Terry

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:08:32 +0000, Paul Terry
wrote:



If the announcement meant that you could go further and put a full-blown
one-day travelcard onto an Oyster, it would surely have said so - and
would have been much more dramatic as a result!

....and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:50:58 +0000, k wrote:

...and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

Had the LT Card survived, that might have been of use for this, but I
don't see why anyone would buy one as ODTCs, certainly off-peak, were
better value.

Neil

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:00:14 GMT, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:50:58 +0000, k wrote:

...and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

I have no problem using my annual on National Rail...

James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:00:14 GMT, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:50:58 +0000, k wrote:

...and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto
oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

I have no problem using my annual on National Rail...

Exactly - ODTCs issued at Tube stations on London Underground stock are
valid on National Rail, so why shouldn't Oyster-based ODTCs be? All
barriered NR stations have Oyster readers on the barriers, after all.
(And I've never had any trouble with my monthly Z1-3, despite living
nowhere near a tube station and rarely using the tube.)

...and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

And why not? The National Rail ticket gates are perfectly capable of
accepting period Travelcards on Oyster and Off Peak ODTC on paper tickets so
it doesn't seem a leap of technology to accept Off Peak ODTC on Oyster if
treated in much the same way as a period travelcard.

I suspect the issue is that for sensible implementation it would indeed have
to occupy one of the slots for a period travelcard (there are two I believe)
and that could cause confusion for those who prefer to buy multiple ODTC in
advance. Also if purchasing online you'd have to go through a tube station
gate to get it loaded which is probably extra inconvenient for one day
travelcard users. I doubt capping was expected to be so delayed either so
it was really only an issue for National Rail ODTC users.

Neil Williams wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 11 Feb 2005:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:50:58 +0000, k wrote:

...and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster?
Surely its not technically difficult?

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

Why not, since you can use a period Travelcard on national rail, even if
this is on your Oyster? The suburban service ticket-checkers all have
Oyster readers for just this reason, and those stations within the
network that are gated have touch-in/out pads.
--
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:35:47 +0000, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Why not, since you can use a period Travelcard on national rail, even if
this is on your Oyster? The suburban service ticket-checkers all have
Oyster readers for just this reason, and those stations within the
network that are gated have touch-in/out pads.

OK, I stand (sit?) corrected - I didn't think this was resolved yet.

Neil

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Neil Williams wrote:

Because it wouldn't be a true ODTC, because you couldn't use it on
National Rail.

Had the LT Card survived, that might have been of use for this, but I
don't see why anyone would buy one as ODTCs, certainly off-peak, were
better value.

So another good case for TfL to take immediate control of National Rail
fares in London and harmonise them in line with the Tube (i.e. zonal and
not point to point).

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Phil Richards
London, UK
Home Page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk