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Old February 12th 05, 11:12 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default Future of CDRs and NR season tickets in TfL zones?

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For example, the development of GPS systems means that it's possible
to calculate the straight-line, as-the-crow-flies distance between
stations, and use that as a basis for a point-to-point system. (This
way, we eliminate much of the complicated routing nonsense which makes
NR's present fares system so awkward. After all, from the customer's
POV it's only the start and end points that really matter, not the
places in between.)

Multiply that straight-line distance by a fixed pounds-per-mile rate,
and you get the base cost of the ticket. You can then add on various
fixed value premiums for premium services, e.g.

** travelling first class

** travelling by an express train instead of a stopping train

** even travelling by a train instead of a bus (assuming that this
could be the basis for tickets on all modes of transport)


Oops. I forgot to add that CDRs etc. can be treated as a fixed premium
added to the single fare at this point. Should've double checked
everything before I pressed Send. Sorry.

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Default Future of CDRs and NR season tickets in TfL zones?

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--- Solar Penguin said...


For example, the development of GPS systems means that it's possible
to calculate the straight-line, as-the-crow-flies distance between
stations, and use that as a basis for a point-to-point system. (This
way, we eliminate much of the complicated routing nonsense which makes
NR's present fares system so awkward. After all, from the customer's
POV it's only the start and end points that really matter, not the
places in between.)

Multiply that straight-line distance by a fixed pounds-per-mile rate,
and you get the base cost of the ticket. You can then add on various
fixed value premiums for premium services, e.g.

** travelling first class

** travelling by an express train instead of a stopping train

** even travelling by a train instead of a bus (assuming that this
could be the basis for tickets on all modes of transport)



Oops. I forgot to add that CDRs etc. can be treated as a fixed premium
added to the single fare at this point. Should've double checked
everything before I pressed Send. Sorry.


Just to throw this into all the other arguments, if it's illogical that
a Travelcard costs less than some singles, then it's also illogical that
a return should cost less than two singles. Why would you price a CDR as
a fixed premium added to the single fare?

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Default Future of CDRs and NR season tickets in TfL zones?

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:12:10 -0000, "Solar Penguin"
wrote:

Oops. I forgot to add that CDRs etc. can be treated as a fixed premium
added to the single fare at this point. Should've double checked
everything before I pressed Send. Sorry.


Why, to go for a similar argument, should someone be given a discount
for returning on the same day over returning on the next?

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