"Rich Mallard" wrote in message
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Following up on that somewhat negative post, instead of building a new class
of train, I think with hindsight it would have been better to have:

- Completed the 12-car Networker project in the Kent Link area

- Lengthened all Charing Cross/Cannon St Kent Link peak trains by two
carriages or more, giving 10 or 12 car formations on virtually all services.

- Refurbished and modified the Networkers to allow for more room for
standing by doorways

- Placed a follow-on order for more 375/9 units to be used on Networker
routes, keeping them targeted at Gillingham/Gravesend/Sevenoaks trains when
possible.

OK, so that's not going to happen now, so to resolve the current situation I
suggest:

- Removal of the tip-up seats and proper seating installed

- An urgent rethink on the seating with new deeper upholstery supplied (and
not in a dreary grey fabric)

Rich

"Rich Mallard" wrote in
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"Rich Mallard" wrote in message
...
snip my own comments

Following up on that somewhat negative post, instead of building a new
class of train, I think with hindsight it would have been better to
have:

- Completed the 12-car Networker project in the Kent Link area

- Lengthened all Charing Cross/Cannon St Kent Link peak trains by two
carriages or more, giving 10 or 12 car formations on virtually all
services.

- Refurbished and modified the Networkers to allow for more room for
standing by doorways

- Placed a follow-on order for more 375/9 units to be used on Networker
routes, keeping them targeted at Gillingham/Gravesend/Sevenoaks trains
when possible.

OK, so that's not going to happen now, so to resolve the current
situation I suggest:

- Removal of the tip-up seats and proper seating installed

- An urgent rethink on the seating with new deeper upholstery supplied
(and not in a dreary grey fabric)

Rich



Sounds sensible to me. But, if new trains had to be built, why on earth
build them with only 2 sets of doors per side ?! (The old standard DB S
Bahn EMU - class 420 - has 4 sets on each side of a 20.8m vehicle, its
replacement, the articulated class 423, 3 sets on a 15.5m vehicle)

David

David Jackman wrote:

The old standard DB S
Bahn EMU - class 420 - has 4 sets on each side of a 20.8m vehicle,
its
replacement, the articulated class 423, 3 sets on a 15.5m vehicle


And exactly no overall change to the unit - a 3 car 420 is 67400 mm
long with 12 door pairs per unit - and 423 are 4 car artic also 67400
mm long also with 12 door pairs per unit.


I'd like to have seen 376s built like DB 423s. Far too radical for UK
national railways (or too German for Connex as was) and far too
innovative for uk.railway to ever accept such a device


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Nick