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Old February 28th 05, 05:05 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Rich Mallard wrote:

So that's 173 windows smashed at the weekend? What the hell is

happening
around here???


Seen the same in the West Midlands. On one occaision a bus was
effectively demolished. This was witnessed by a number of other
customers who wrere too afraid to do anything. Despite those on board
camera's no-one ever seems to get punished or publicly made an example
of. I suspect this maybe because the culprits are juveniles.

How much damage will it take before our society takes notice of what is
going on and stands up to it?

Rather than trying to talk nicely to them, perhaps we should have
regime where you get one chance. Do it again and off with your
******** or something.

Or indeed, as is oft called for up here in the local and national
newspapers, Bring Back the Birch!


But that's never going to happen, nor should it. We don't inflict pain on
people to control their behavior anymore, and thank goodness for that. It
demeans our civilised soceity to even contemplate it, I think.

Not sure if it was common in England or not, but it lasted pretty late in
Scotland, and for minor offences the punishment was a set number of lashes
by the 'birch' (small branches tethered together).
Either that, send the little *******s off to the Army.


We need to know what's going on in their heads before drawing any
conclusions. This is all purely reactive stuff, but we need to stop this
situation from happening in the first place. What has made these kids into
violent, aggressive morons? If we can find out, we might just have a chance
of changing it.

It doesn't matter how severe you make the penalty, the fact is that they
aren't being caught in the first place! So this is perhaps all really
rather academic...

Rich


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Surely these acts of vandalism and violence already demean the
civilised society you refer to. The tables have turned - instead the
criminals inflict pain on us now. That's a great solution!

I think a fair number can or could get caught however it would seem but
we have no effective punishment or deterrent from doing it again.

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