E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

153: After it's devious route around Canonbury then turning out of
Liverpool Road into Holloway Road then Seven Sisters Road to Finsbury Park
to be re-routed via Drayton Park and Gillespie Road approaching Finsbury
Park from Blackstock Road.

--
Phil Richards
London, UK
Home Page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Restore the split between routes 107/307, so there was once again a
through route from western Barnet to Edgware. Then extend the Edgware
terminus back towards Queensbury as it used to be - doesn't need to go
as far as Queensbury, but sufficient to pass Edgware hospital.

What with Barnet Hospital transferring services to Edgware and a
council that is hell bent on centralising all services at the eastern
side of a borough that is shaped like a polo mint with no definable
centre, Barnet needs far better east/west links.


Restore the direct routing of the 84 to St Albans. The current route
via Potters Bar takes over an hour


Restore the northern 298 terminus to South Mimms - so I can get to the
pub in Ridge for Sunday Lunch.

I would introduce a proper circular (ahem) route around Walthamstow,
rather than relying almost solely on longer distance routes to provide
service, particularly off the north south corridor.

For instance, the 158 bus that runs up from Stratford-Leyton over Lea
Bridge Road (major cause of delays) - then past Kelmscott
School/Leisure Centre, St James Street Station - Blackhorse Road
Station - down Blackhorse Road the Crooked Billet roundabout (more
delays) then Chingford Mount (past Walthamstow Dogs - more delays) is
the only bus up Billet Road from Blackhorse Road, and is always
heaving. A more sensible suggestion would be a bus from Walthamstow,
down to St James's Street, up Blackhorse Road, round the Crooked
Billet, and back to Walthamstow.

LRT (as it was then) did something similar with the W11/W12/W15 routes
and these buses are also stacked to the gills despite operating up to
every 10 minutes.

E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with a
new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station. It
always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some short
workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as discussed
elsewhere!) if necessary.

(Peter)typed


Restore the split between routes 107/307, so there was once again a
through route from western Barnet to Edgware. Then extend the Edgware
terminus back towards Queensbury as it used to be - doesn't need to go
as far as Queensbury, but sufficient to pass Edgware hospital.

What with Barnet Hospital transferring services to Edgware and a
council that is hell bent on centralising all services at the eastern
side of a borough that is shaped like a polo mint with no definable
centre, Barnet needs far better east/west links.

And AIUI the 'Tilley Bus' between Barnet and Edgware Hospitals has been
discontinued, while parking at Edgware shrinks each time I look!

Also PLEASE can we have a continuous bus service restored to the Golders
Green/Finchley/Barnet corridor?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005
12:31:14 GMT :

Also PLEASE can we have a continuous bus service restored to the Golders
Green/Finchley/Barnet corridor?

This could possibly involve the significant amount of mileage
currently incurred by the 82 running empty between Tally Ho Corner and
Potters Bar, no?


--
'charity begins at home'
- usually an excuse for not allowing it to get abroad
(Chambers 20th Century Dictionary)

John Ray wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley
Road, Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

Ah. When you said you would "extend" it, I thought you meant that it
would continue on from Norwood Junction to Thornton Heath. What you
are now describing is a diversion, i.e. it will no longer call at
Norwood Junction.

No - it would start at Norwood Junction, carry on down Morland Road to East
Croydon then proceed along the route I have just described from East Croydon
to TH.

EZ

Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route instead.

It always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some
short workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as
discussed elsewhere!) if necessary.

No - I think the split is a good thing. Shorter journeys mean more reliable
journeys.

EZ

E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 20 February 2005

E. Zackatackali wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would
you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards)
with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route
instead.

Ah, but I was being selfish and suggesting keeping the 3 running all
the way to CP, thus giving West Dulwich a double frequency (with one of
the routes not being affected by Central London snarl-ups, which cause
massive variations in frequency on the 3 at the moment!)