Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005
12:31:14 GMT :

Also PLEASE can we have a continuous bus service restored to the Golders
Green/Finchley/Barnet corridor?

This could possibly involve the significant amount of mileage
currently incurred by the 82 running empty between Tally Ho Corner and
Potters Bar, no?


--
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- usually an excuse for not allowing it to get abroad
(Chambers 20th Century Dictionary)

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:31:14 GMT, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

And AIUI the 'Tilley Bus' between Barnet and Edgware Hospitals has been
discontinued, while parking at Edgware shrinks each time I look!


The operator changed fairly recently, but the route still runs.

Since February 1st, it has been operated by Krest Self Drive Hire Ltd.
From Edgware hourly 0645 until 2145
From Barnet, hourly 0715 until 2215.

HTH

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I would introduce a proper circular (ahem) route around Walthamstow,
rather than relying almost solely on longer distance routes to provide
service, particularly off the north south corridor.

For instance, the 158 bus that runs up from Stratford-Leyton over Lea
Bridge Road (major cause of delays) - then past Kelmscott
School/Leisure Centre, St James Street Station - Blackhorse Road
Station - down Blackhorse Road the Crooked Billet roundabout (more
delays) then Chingford Mount (past Walthamstow Dogs - more delays) is
the only bus up Billet Road from Blackhorse Road, and is always
heaving. A more sensible suggestion would be a bus from Walthamstow,
down to St James's Street, up Blackhorse Road, round the Crooked
Billet, and back to Walthamstow.

LRT (as it was then) did something similar with the W11/W12/W15 routes
and these buses are also stacked to the gills despite operating up to
every 10 minutes.

E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with a
new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station. It
always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some short
workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as discussed
elsewhere!) if necessary.

Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route instead.

It always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some
short workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as
discussed elsewhere!) if necessary.

No - I think the split is a good thing. Shorter journeys mean more reliable
journeys.

EZ

E. Zackatackali wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would
you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards)
with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route
instead.

Ah, but I was being selfish and suggesting keeping the 3 running all
the way to CP, thus giving West Dulwich a double frequency (with one of
the routes not being affected by Central London snarl-ups, which cause
massive variations in frequency on the 3 at the moment!)

E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!
--
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Mrs Redboots wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher
number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road
or
Oxford Street.

Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!

Yes, FOOLS for not making it go at least as far as Streatham Ice Rink
(or even Norbury). Not that it'll ever get built.

In message .com,
Rupert Candy writes
Yes, FOOLS for not making it go at least as far as Streatham Ice Rink
(or even Norbury). Not that it'll ever get built.
Streatham Ice Rink? I used to go skating there in my late teens, one
of the best ice surfaces in the country. Circa 1968.
--
Clive.

Mrs Redboots wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:


I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.


Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!

If you're lucky, Croydon Tramlink will head up to Brixton after serving
Thornton Heath Pond and Streatham. It's not that likely though... I hear
that fitting trams down Streatham High Road would be a nightmare,
although I've never been there myself.

Would improved frequencies on overground rail lines or the mooted
extension of the Victoria line to Herne Hill help matters?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London