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On 24 Mar 2005 01:16:42 -0800, wrote:
I remember many years ago that somebody got off a charge of travelling
without a ticket because they had waited a long time in a queue then

you can escape liability for a Penalty Fare if:
"...there were no facilities in operation for the sale of the
appropriate ticket..."
at your starting station. One could argue that a ticket
office that is overwhelmed by customer demand, or suffering
some other go slow, is not providing a facility, but it
would be a tenuous argument.

There is a a further provision for the "Regulator" to make
rules on penalty fares schemes ... I think at one point
these rules make provision for a "reasonable opportunity to
buy a ticket" but I have no references for this. Nor do i
know if these rules still apply.

None of this has much relavence to the criminal law on fare
evasion.

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wrote in uk.transport.london on 24 Mar 2005 01:16:42
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At Watford Junc this morning two machines were out of order and the
queue at the one working machine and at the booking office would have
meant a wait of at least 20 minutes if not longer.

Based on one brief observation, how do you know this?

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I remember many years ago that somebody got off a charge of travelling
without a ticket because they had waited a long time in a queue then
rather than miss the train got on without a ticket.
At Watford Junc this morning two machines were out of order and the
queue at the one working machine and at the booking office would have
meant a wait of at least 20 minutes if not longer.
I managed to buy a ticket from the excess window otherwise I would have
got back in the car and driven to work.
Are there any figures around for what is an unacceptable wait because
this morning was a shambles.
It will be a long time before I am stupid enough to rely on National
rail again.

Kevin

A droid called Helen told me I should have allowed 15 minutes for a
ticket, when she took 10 minutes to issue one at Watford Junction, a few
years ago.

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