Rupert Candy wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Details of the pub would be of interest to someone I know.

It's called the Pig & Whistle, and it's in the shopping centre on
Medborgarplatsen in Sodermalm. It's full of railway memorabilia,
including a (non-functioning) Platform Tickets machine...

Thanks for that.

On 1 Apr 2005 04:49:54 -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:
a NSE-era (ie blue and white) line diagram from Watford Junction,
which showed the DC line service to Euston, plus peak-hour services
to Liverpool Street (*not* Broad Street). The sign also showed
Primrose Hill and the Croxley Green branch

Did NLL services ever run into Liverpool St?

Yes they did, for about a year. I also own one of these signs. I bought
it for £15 from Collector's Corner. It's about 5 ft by 3 ft, and it
caused some logistical problems getting it home. At the time I bought
mine, CC had at least half a dozen other examples for sale. They were
all in bubble wrap, and had never been displayed on the relevant
stations. I guess they were spares, in case of vandalism, but the
service was so short lived that the re was no need to deploy them.
--
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(210 001 under cover at Stratford Depot in 1983)

On 1 Apr 2005, Rupert Candy wrote:

Martin Underwood wrote:
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Talking of Broad Street, what happenned to the services that used to
operate into this station? I also see, from looking elsewhere that
Broad Street had an Underground station. What happenned to this?

As I understand it, the Palace Gates to North Woolwich and Richmond to
Broad Street services were merged to become Richmond to North
Woolwich. The Palace Gates branch closed a while ago, so there was
presumably a period when there was just a Dalston Junction (or
thereabouts) to North Woolwich shuttle.

Once Broad Street closed, there was no main line access to the North
London Line (ie from a BR-owned terminus); passengers from Central
London had to use tube lines such as the Victoria from KX to Highbury
and Islington or the Northern line from Euston to Kentish Town.

Stratford? Not a terminus, i suppose.

This is truly obscure, but I couldn't resist posting it - I was in
Stockholm earlier this week and was flabbergasted to find, attached to
the ceiling of an "English pub" (which is incidentally a very common
beast there) a NSE-era (ie blue and white) line diagram from Watford
Junction, which showed the DC line service to Euston, plus peak-hour
services to Liverpool Street (*not* Broad Street). The sign also showed
Primrose Hill and the Croxley Green branch, so that might help in dating
it.

Did NLL services ever run into Liverpool St? I have a reasonable digital
photo of the sign if anyone's interested.

I'd like to see it; i'd also be happy to give it a home on the internet if
you like.

tom

--
The final chapter, prophetic, poetic

Rupert Candy wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Details of the pub would be of interest to someone I know.

It's called the Pig & Whistle, and it's in the shopping centre on
Medborgarplatsen in Sodermalm. It's full of railway memorabilia,
including a (non-functioning) Platform Tickets machine...

Thanks for that.

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:19:53 +0100, "Martin Underwood"
wrote:


As I understand it, the Palace Gates to North Woolwich and Richmond to Broad
Street services were merged to become Richmond to North Woolwich. The Palace
Gates branch closed a while ago, so there was presumably a period when there
was just a Dalston Junction (or thereabouts) to North Woolwich shuttle.

NW - Stratford and Tottenham Hale, wasn't it?


I remember in the 80s or 90s (after Broad Street had closed and the new
offices bult on the site) there was an occasional service from Liverpool
Street via the newly-built Graham Road curve (north of Cambridge Heath) onto
the NLL. I'm not sure whether it went to Richmond or whether it branched off
onto the WCML to go to Watford Junction.

Watford via Primrose Hill for a while, I think 3 trains per peak
originally. The three-car units seemed very short in Liverpool St. By
the end there was a single Watford - Liverpool St. in the morning,
returning to Willesden Junction LL. Don't know if there was a
corresponding evening service.

That was just a subway connection to Liverpool Street underground:
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277473.html
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277476.html

Thanks Chris, Martin & those who also replied.
Now I come to think of it, it was on your gallery, Chris that I saw
those photos!

Chris Tolley wrote in uk.transport.london on Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:28:26
GMT :

On 1 Apr 2005 04:49:54 -0800, Rupert Candy wrote:
a NSE-era (ie blue and white) line diagram from Watford Junction,
which showed the DC line service to Euston, plus peak-hour services
to Liverpool Street (*not* Broad Street). The sign also showed
Primrose Hill and the Croxley Green branch

Did NLL services ever run into Liverpool St?

Yes they did, for about a year. I also own one of these signs. I bought
it for £15 from Collector's Corner. It's about 5 ft by 3 ft, and it
caused some logistical problems getting it home. At the time I bought
mine, CC had at least half a dozen other examples for sale. They were
all in bubble wrap, and had never been displayed on the relevant
stations. I guess they were spares, in case of vandalism, but the
service was so short lived that the re was no need to deploy them.

IIRC there's also one in the Head of Steam pub at Euston.

--
baby-sitter
- one who mounts guard over a baby to
relieve the usual attendant
Chambers 20th Century Dictionary

Chris Tolley wrote:


I also see, from looking elsewhere that
Broad Street had an Underground station. What happenned to this?

That was just a subway connection to Liverpool Street underground:
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277473.html
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277476.html

Interesting to see the "Red Arrow" National in both those pictures - was
there ever a Red Arrow route to Liverpool Street, or was the bus just
passing out of service? In fact - were there ever any other Red Arrow
routes anywhere, other than the existing 507 and 521?

Cheers,

Steve

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:33:22 +0100, Steve M
wrote:

Chris Tolley wrote:


I also see, from looking elsewhere that
Broad Street had an Underground station. What happenned to this?

That was just a subway connection to Liverpool Street underground:
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277473.html
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277476.html

Interesting to see the "Red Arrow" National in both those pictures - was
there ever a Red Arrow route to Liverpool Street, or was the bus just
passing out of service? In fact - were there ever any other Red Arrow
routes anywhere, other than the existing 507 and 521?

I have a vague recollection of there being a 502 Red Arrow that served
Liverpool Street. The old 505 Red Arrow also served Liverpool St as it
ran via the current 149 from London Bridge to Shoreditch and then ran
via the 55 to Holborn and then across to Waterloo. A rather useful
"round the corner" link to Old Street from Liverpool St.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In ,
Steve M typed:

....was there ever a Red Arrow route to Liverpool Street, or was the bus
just passing out of service? In fact - were there ever any other Red
Arrow routes anywhere, other than the existing 507 and 521?

500 Victoria Station - Marble Arch (rush hour) The route was longer
between the rush hours and included part of Oxford Street.

501 Waterloo Station - London Bridge Station.
502 Waterloo Station - Liverpool Street Station
503 Waterloo Station - Victoria Station.
505 Waterloo Station - Marble Arch.
506 Victoria Station - Piccadilly Circus.
507 Waterloo Station - Victoria Station.
513 Waterloo Station - London Bridge Station.

--
Bob