"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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The bus station is also in a very odd place and
seemed to be rather poorly used (considering
it serves such a busy town) when I passed through it.

A bus station is a glorified turnaround layby, and there is no reason why
the public should be using any bus station in significant numbers. Richmond
is probably the only bus station in London which is in the right place,
because it is well away from the high land values around the station.
Nothing is more ridiculous than wasting valuable land next to a train
station to park buses for 20 minutes, when there could be a traffic
generator there instead.

--
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That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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The bus station is also in a very odd place and
seemed to be rather poorly used (considering
it serves such a busy town) when I passed through it.

A bus station is a glorified turnaround layby, and there is no reason why
the public should be using any bus station in significant numbers.
Richmond
is probably the only bus station in London which is in the right place,
because it is well away from the high land values around the station.
Nothing is more ridiculous than wasting valuable land next to a train
station to park buses for 20 minutes, when there could be a traffic
generator there instead.


You don't think placing a bus station next to the raqilways station would be
a better option to improve modal interchange?

Brimstone wrote:

You don't think placing a bus station next to the railways
station would be a better option to improve modal interchange?

The bus station _is_ next to the railway station - all of the routes
which call at Richmond Bus Station also stop in front of the railway
station. The only thing that is lost is the ability to board an empty
bus.

In message .com,
TheOneKEA writes

The bus station _is_ next to the railway station - all of the routes
which call at Richmond Bus Station also stop in front of the railway
station.

'fraid not.

Routes 33, 337, 485 and N10 all serve the bus station but do NOT go past
the railway station.

--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry wrote:

'fraid not.

Routes 33, 337, 485 and N10 all serve the bus station but
do NOT go past the railway station.

Dangit.

I was thinking of the stop next to the main entrance to Waitrose, at
the very bottom of Sheen Road .

On 4 Apr 2005 00:26:03 -0700, "TheOneKEA" wrote:


The bus station _is_ next to the railway station - all of the routes
which call at Richmond Bus Station also stop in front of the railway
station. The only thing that is lost is the ability to board an empty
bus.

I get an empty bus at Richmond station :-) I used to have to walk to
the bus station for it but now it starts at the station :-)

John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

The bus station is also in a very odd place and
seemed to be rather poorly used (considering
it serves such a busy town) when I passed through it.


A bus station is a glorified turnaround layby, and there is no reason why
the public should be using any bus station in significant numbers. Richmond
is probably the only bus station in London which is in the right place,
because it is well away from the high land values around the station.
Nothing is more ridiculous than wasting valuable land next to a train
station to park buses for 20 minutes, when there could be a traffic
generator there instead.

Hmm... I'd say that a bus station should be a useful interchange
location; whether they turn around there isn't necessarily part and
parcel of it being a bus station. The bus depot could be somewhere else.

IMHO, Hammersmith is a best-practice example of what can be achieved at
a bus station.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:

IMHO, Hammersmith is a best-practice example of what can be achieved
at
a bus station.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Except when you're waiting for half an hour for an N10 (-Richmond)
listening to that same 2 minutes of piano music played over and over -
I keep expecting it to say "Your bus journey is important to us so
please continue to hold and a bus will be with you as soon as possible"

wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

IMHO, Hammersmith is a best-practice example of what can be achieved at
a bus station.

Except when you're waiting for half an hour for an N10 (-Richmond)
listening to that same 2 minutes of piano music played over and over -
I keep expecting it to say "Your bus journey is important to us so
please continue to hold and a bus will be with you as soon as possible"

LOL! At least you can wait inside for your bus to come. I always freeze
my bits off waiting for night buses at Trafalgar Square or King's Cross.

I did wonder the other day whether it would be feasible, at busy outside
stops, to install heaters like those ones they use in pub gardens. It
might have a small added benefit of safety in numbers and slightly
faster journeys by attracting people to a particular bus stop rather
than spreading along consecutive bus stops. (Does that make any sense?)


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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wrote:

I did wonder the other day whether it would be feasible, at busy outside
stops, to install heaters like those ones they use in pub gardens. It
might have a small added benefit of safety in numbers and slightly
faster journeys by attracting people to a particular bus stop rather
than spreading along consecutive bus stops. (Does that make any sense?)

Trouble is, it would attrach some of the less desirable elements to keep
warm at the bus shelter whilst they say "Can you spare 20p" or "Give us your
wallet, PIN, mobile and trainers" or "Want some business luv?"

;-)