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lonelytraveller writes there are some passages like that now for the other entrance to the tube (the one with escalators going both ways, left and right), I've just been there to look, and that is the original Central Line booking hall. The passages are the original ones I was remembering, one emerging by platform 1 and the other by platforms 11/12. Before 1992 the former would have emerged at a side entrance at the corner of the offices. My previous plan wasn't detailed enough; the offices did not reach quite back to Liverpool Street itself, and I have memories of there being a memorial wall in the side entrance. but they would have been outside the building on the cab road in 1985, No. The platform 1 one would have been behind the offices, and the platform 11/12 one in the middle of the station (from memory, beside the arched wall between 10 and 11). unless they moved them. I guess that ticket office itself would have been just inside, as I think its dead in the centre of the whole station now, so I suppose they could have moved them, but Id have thought it would have been more sensible to just have steps straight into it, or have made the escalators go to the surface or something, and come out just by the offices, unless it was under platform 9? Yes, it was. But if thats the case, then why did they build it in the one place inside the station they couldn't get to the surface?. Because the GER gave them the space free in exchange for an agreement not to extend beyond Liverpool Street. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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lonelytraveller writes I meant the central line rather than the circle line - where the escalators are now is where you have marked "offices" on your plan, but on a 1980s photo - http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/c483527.html - there is a road there, rather than a building for "offices". I went to Liverpool Street this morning to look around. Looking again at Chris Tolley's pictures: The one showing the Solari board: the roof above platforms 12 to 17 has now been completely removed but the barrier line is roughly in the same place as shown. This picture would appear to have been taken from the walkway along the side of the ticket office (now a pub). At the extreme left you can see a staircase up to the footbridge - the (present) platform 11/12 exit from the Central emerged just beside it. The one showing the Great Eastern Hotel sign is taken on the old platform 9; the photo was taken from a point which is *now* around the buffer stop of platform 8 but was then well outside the barrier line. The offices on the right are the ones I am referring to. The hotel fascia, with that flat-arch top, is still there opposite 9 and 10. On its right is now McDonalds. If you look in the picture you can see a sign pointing to Liverpool Street, Taxis, and Broad Street; I *think* that the other Central Line exit (the one now by platform 1) was there. The wide space between 10 and 11 still there today was, I am fairly sure, the cab arrival and parcels area, including chutes down to MailRail. I can't work out where the outside picture was taken, so I can't see how that sloping road fits in. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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In article , Clive D. W.
Feather writes snip I can't work out where the outside picture was taken, so I can't see how that sloping road fits in. Isn't the door on the right the back entrance to the GE hotel looking from Bishopsgate with the building at the back being the old 50 Liverpool Street Offices? -- John Alexander, |
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sorry, I meant why didnt they move it slightly west so that the
escalators could get to the surface, rather than the tube line |
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The sloping road one is taken from liverpool street - the road where
the bus stops are now is on the left, and mcdonalds is on the extreme right - there is a similar picture from about 1920 that shows a slightly wider area - http://www.tfsimon.com/england-liver...tation.bmp.jpg. There is one from 1985 that just shows it - http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277472.html And here is one that just shows the very top of the slope - http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13296306.html The slope should be where mr feather put the offices. |
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lonelytraveller writes And here is one that just shows the very top of the slope - http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13296306.html You can see a slope in that? That's the Liverpool Street side of the hotel and is still there (I recognise the railings at first floor level). The metal framework just visible is where McDonalds and the entrance opposite the low numbered platforms now is; the offices had already gone. However, now I've got my bearings: the ramp in Chris's outside picture (um, http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277478.html) goes down behind the offices which, I agree, might not have been as wide as platform 1. I also found a note saying that the platform ends we 1&2: 0 miles 4 chains 3-8: 0 miles 5 chains 9&10: 0 miles 0 chains 11-18: 0 miles 2 chains -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
However, now I've got my bearings: the ramp in Chris's outside picture (um, http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277478.html) goes down behind the offices which, I agree, might not have been as wide as platform 1. Underneath that slope was a British Railways Staff Association-owned gymnasium, certainly as late as the mid-1970s. |
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sorry, I think that link must have gone a bit wrong - I meant the prior
picture http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13277471.html |
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Its a cash machine now.
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