lonelytraveller wrote to uk.transport.london on Sat, 7 May 2005:

If Clapham Town, Clapham North, and Clapham South are the public ones,
then where was Clapham Common?
There are only 3 tube stations in clapham as far as I know

I think you misread what Mark wrote - he said "Camden Town", not
"Clapham Town"! Clapham Common did indeed have a deep-level shelter
built, you can see the tower for it still, and apparently it was used as
accommodation for the hordes who came to the Festival of Britain in
1951, and then for those who came over on the Empire Windrush, and its
successors.
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In article .com,
lonelytraveller writes
What I meant was, wasn't it possibly for them just to add the
prefabricated steel tunnel rings into an already existing cavern? It
would save a lot of effort.

Even if such a cavern existed (which I doubt), putting a line of steel
rings across it isn't easy - they'll all fall down! You need to build a
viaduct across it (as was done on line 7bis in Paris).

Or are you suggesting that there's a natural tunnel-shaped cavern under
East London?

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On Sun, 8 May 2005, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article .com,
lonelytraveller writes

What I meant was, wasn't it possibly for them just to add the
prefabricated steel tunnel rings into an already existing cavern? It
would save a lot of effort.

Even if such a cavern existed (which I doubt), putting a line of steel
rings across it isn't easy - they'll all fall down! You need to build a
viaduct across it (as was done on line 7bis in Paris).

That sounds interesting. What sort of cavern was it? I have visions of a
tunnel emerging into some vast underground space deep beneath Paris -
probably lined with the bones of 19th-century hermits or something - and
crossing it on some impossibly slender bridge before plunging back into
the rock. Which would be cool.

Or are you suggesting that there's a natural tunnel-shaped cavern under
East London?

I got the impression 'cavern' meant some sort of manmade hole related to
the tube in some way. As in 'crossover cavern'.

tom

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In article ,
Tom Anderson writes
You need to build a
viaduct across it (as was done on line 7bis in Paris).
That sounds interesting. What sort of cavern was it?

Former quarry.

I have visions of a
tunnel emerging into some vast underground space deep beneath Paris -
probably lined with the bones of 19th-century hermits or something - and
crossing it on some impossibly slender bridge before plunging back into
the rock. Which would be cool.

It's something like that - apart from the bones, which are elsewhere -
but the bridges are enclosed so you can't see anything.

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Apparantly the bethnal green cavern is close to the location of the
deep level shelter/bunker, nearer liverpool street, but past the
sidings. I know that when I've gone that way, there is a small gap in
the tunnel wall on the inside of the line in a location that
approximately matches that description.

The 7bis Cavern sounds cool though. Can you imagine being on the
central line in a boring tunnel and then going over a huge viaduct in
an underground cavern, that would be amazing.

On 8 May 2005 18:25:51 -0700, "lonelytraveller"
wrote:

Apparantly the bethnal green cavern is close to the location of the
deep level shelter/bunker, nearer liverpool street, but past the
sidings. I know that when I've gone that way, there is a small gap in
the tunnel wall on the inside of the line in a location that
approximately matches that description.

It doesn't sound feasible that, a) there would be such open access
from the running tunnel to this supposed cavern, or b) that none of
the standard works on the Underground in general and the Central in
particular seem to contain any refernece to it existing in the first
place.
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None of the northern line ones mention that the old interchange
concourse at euston is still there below the modern one, but it is
nethertheless - the books don't tell you everything, only the stuff
thats obvious and everyone else knows

In article . com,
lonelytraveller writes
Apparantly the bethnal green cavern is close to the location of the
deep level shelter/bunker, nearer liverpool street, but past the
sidings. I know that when I've gone that way, there is a small gap in
the tunnel wall on the inside of the line in a location that
approximately matches that description.

There is an access and ventilation shaft somewhere around there. Hardly
a cavern.

The 7bis Cavern sounds cool though. Can you imagine being on the
central line in a boring tunnel and then going over a huge viaduct in
an underground cavern, that would be amazing.

As I said; nothing to see.

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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
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In article ,
Tom Anderson writes

I have visions of a
tunnel emerging into some vast underground space
deep beneath Paris - probably lined with the bones of
19th-century hermits or something - and crossing it on
some impossibly slender bridge before plunging back into
the rock. Which would be cool.

It's something like that - apart from the bones, which are
elsewhere - but the bridges are enclosed so you can't see anything.

Spoilsports. I wonder if this was the inspiration behind the Christopher
Lambert film Subway?

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"lonelytraveller" a écrit dans
le message de ups.com...
Apparantly the bethnal green cavern is close to the location of the
deep level shelter/bunker, nearer liverpool street, but past the
sidings. I know that when I've gone that way, there is a small gap in
the tunnel wall on the inside of the line in a location that
approximately matches that description.

The 7bis Cavern sounds cool though. Can you imagine being on the
central line in a boring tunnel and then going over a huge viaduct in
an underground cavern, that would be amazing.

The Brussels métro station 'Porte de Halle' has a science-fiction theme,
with what looks like half an old tram crashing through the walls (of the
adjacent part where trams on Line 3 run underground). It was designed by a
comic-book artist whose stories seem to carry on where 'Metropolis' left
off. You should come and see it sometime...

Regards,

- Alan (in Brussels)