blatant plug on

Any one travelling from London to Brighton who does not have any other
means of getting back to London contact me. I can take 2 bikes in my
London taxi.

I usually start work between 7 and 8 p.m. so you can have the whole day
in Brighton. There will be a charge for the service but it will
definitely not be the full fare! Price depends where you want to get to!

blatant plug off

(Stands pack and waits for flames)

--
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England

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Mike Hughes writes:
blatant plug on

Any one travelling from London to Brighton who does not have any other
means of getting back to London contact me. I can take 2 bikes in my
London taxi.

Are those wonderful trains the PT weenies are always exhorting us to use
refusing to carry the cyclists back again this year?

Fraid so. They're also banning bicyles on many other trains in the South
of England and on Thameslink AIUI.

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Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:51:59 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Southern - Cycles will be banned throughout the Southern network all day
on Sunday 19 June 2005.

Which, as I've posted elsewhere, is a massive over-reaction, and will
nicely stuff up the journeys of anyone who relies on train+bike who
may well be travelling nowhere near either London or Brighton, nor the
route of the Ride.

The Ride have organised alternative transport - this doesn't help
anyone who wishes to travel for other reasons.

Neil

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On 12 Jun 2005 15:30:44 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Can't someone charter a train or two?

The organisers have hired a fleet of coaches and lorries, which is
probably cheaper, and price is probably their main consideration.

However, this doesn't stop the cycle ban from affecting other
passengers throughout Southern and Thameslink's networks who do not
have the ability to use these buses/lorries, which are for event
participants only. Those especially likely to be affected are those
who may be making longer journeys involving those services, as the ban
is likely not being "promoted" off Southern/Thameslink's networks.

Neil

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"Huge" wrote in message
...
Barry Salter writes:

Yup, as the new trains don't have a brakevan, so there's nowhere to
safely stow the bikes. Good innit?

sensible
Sounds bleeding stupid to me. The trains are virtually empty at weekends,
so who's going to care?
/sensible

Ah but, in this litigation-mad society that we now have, who will pay if a
'regular' passenger gets injured by a badly-stowed or falling bicycle? I
suspect that that is what is behind the decision.

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
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Mike Hughes writes:

blatant plug on

Any one travelling from London to Brighton who does not have any other
means of getting back to London contact me. I can take 2 bikes in my
London taxi.


Are those wonderful trains the PT weenies are always exhorting us to use
refusing to carry the cyclists back again this year?


Fraid so. They're also banning bicyles on many other trains in the South
of England and on Thameslink AIUI.

The Rail Passenger Committee (Southern England) looked into this last
year. We were assured that everybody taking part had been informed that
trains could not be supplied and lorries were put on in their place to
take them back to London. However 1,000s of bikes still turned up at
Brighton and RPC monitored the chaos that was caused and the disruption
to other non-cyclist passengers. This year Southern and Thameslink in
particular are trying to prevent cyclists from going to London for the
start and returning late afternoon evening because the scale of bikes
that take part is probably in the 10s of 1,000s it will be monitored
again. Their is a real problem here, the event has grown to a massive
scale with both official registered riders (who have no excuse for not
knowing the lorry arrangements) and many more how cycle along with the rest.

Chris Fribbins
RPC (SE) Member (until committees abolished at end of July)

Huge ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

cyclist-hater
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. So cycle back, if it's so
bloody marvellous.
/cyclist-hater

grin

Barry Salter ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

Southern - Cycles will be banned throughout the Southern network all day
on Sunday 19 June 2005.

Thameslink - Cycles will be banned on all Thameslink trains operating
between London Blackfriars and Brighton all day on Sunday 19 June 2005.
Cycles will continue to be carried between Bedford/Luton and London
Blackfriars and between Wimbledon/Sutton/Carshalton and London
Blackfriars

Madness.

Abso-****ing-lute madness.

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(Neil Williams) writes:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:51:59 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Southern - Cycles will be banned throughout the Southern network all day
on Sunday 19 June 2005.

Which, as I've posted elsewhere, is a massive over-reaction, and will
nicely stuff up the journeys of anyone who relies on train+bike

Given that bikes are carried free, the railway companies can do
as they please.

Indeed, but they can lose out on a passenger's long-term rail use, which
might or might not make good business sense...

....Some of us want to remain car-free, but once tempted into car
ownership, might make very few railway journeys.

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Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

On 12 Jun 2005 17:57:42 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Which, as I've posted elsewhere, is a massive over-reaction, and will
nicely stuff up the journeys of anyone who relies on train+bike

Given that bikes are carried free, the railway companies can do
as they please.

Oh, indeed, they can. Doesn't, of course, mean they should.

To be fair rail-using cyclists are often messed around on Sundays by
engineering work and bus substitution, but that said I've noticed
recently that where coaches rather than buses are used, it's common
for bicycles to be carried (unofficially) in the underbody luggage
space.

Neil

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