chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Now you're talking 5 grand for a new car, that's different than 5
grand for a car.

Sure, but we were comparing vs new bikes.

Can you get a new car for 5 grand?

Yes. List on some of the ropier stuff about can squeek under £5k - and I'm
sure they'd be desperate to shift one. For another few hundred notes, you
could get something half-decent and mainstream like a Panda.

But the most I've ever spent on a car is £4.5k, for a 4.5yr old £27k-new
turbo petrol XM - I paid roughly the list price of the options. 5 years
later, it's still doing fine.

Same question, caveat with "worth having"? :-D

I'll answer that by echoing...

Can you get a new bike for 100 quid, "worth having"?

Adrian wrote:
chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Can you get a new car for 5 grand?


Yes. List on some of the ropier stuff about can squeek under £5k - and I'm
sure they'd be desperate to shift one. For another few hundred notes, you
could get something half-decent and mainstream like a Panda.

So 5k will get you a tolerable but unexciting small car.

But it will get you a world-class bike.

In fact, several exceptional ones.

But the most I've ever spent on a car is £4.5k, for a 4.5yr old £27k-new
turbo petrol XM - I paid roughly the list price of the options. 5 years
later, it's still doing fine.

But not a new one ...

Same question, caveat with "worth having"? :-D


I'll answer that by echoing...

Can you get a new bike for 100 quid, "worth having"?


I would never recommend anyone spend "just" 100 quid on a new bike.

Double that to get acceptable. Double *that* to get tolerable. Double
*that* to get reasonable.

You're still talking a fraction of the similar amounts for cars

chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Can you get a new bike for 100 quid, "worth having"?

I would never recommend anyone spend "just" 100 quid on a new bike.

There's your answer to your question, then... g

But I'll bet a much higher percentage of new bikes are the £100-250 end of
the market than £5k cars are of new cars.

You're still talking a fraction of the similar amounts for cars

Oh, absolutely. That's undeniable. But... five grand... on a bike...?!?

Adrian wrote:
chris harrison ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :


Can you get a new bike for 100 quid, "worth having"?


I would never recommend anyone spend "just" 100 quid on a new bike.


aren't you agreeing with what my position has been all along?

There's your answer to your question, then... g

But I'll bet a much higher percentage of new bikes are the £100-250 end of
the market than £5k cars are of new cars.

Maybe, but that just underlines the bike as an economical convenient
means of transport!

You're still talking a fraction of the similar amounts for cars


Oh, absolutely. That's undeniable. But... five grand... on a bike...?!?

Hold on (again) - we've been here before :-D

I would never recommend anyone spend "just" 100 quid on a new bike.

Double that to get acceptable. Double *that* to get tolerable. Double
*that* to get reasonable.

The Halfords jobs look OK and are under £100 - been looking for my daughter

"Martin" wrote in message
...
I would never recommend anyone spend "just" 100 quid on a new bike.

Double that to get acceptable. Double *that* to get tolerable. Double
*that* to get reasonable.

The Halfords jobs look OK and are under £100 - been looking for my
daughter

How old is she?

Be aware that anything with any suspension for that price is a mechanical
disaster area. You'll either spend large amounts of time trying to keep it
working and swearing at the crap materials they've used (bolts made of
cheese etc), or it'll just stop working.

They may 'look OK', but are you looking with an experienced eye?

cheers,
clive

How old is she?

Nearly 8

Be aware that anything with any suspension for that price is a mechanical
disaster area. You'll either spend large amounts of time trying to keep it
working and swearing at the crap materials they've used (bolts made of
cheese etc), or it'll just stop working.

Why? - never had suspension problems with powered 2 wheelers

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Martin wrote:

Be aware that anything with any suspension for that price is a
mechanical disaster area. You'll either spend large amounts of time
trying to keep it working and swearing at the crap materials they've
used (bolts made of cheese etc), or it'll just stop working.

Why? - never had suspension problems with powered 2 wheelers

You've probably never bought suspension that cheap for a powered
two-wheeler. Seriously, if you're getting a complete bike with boingy
forks for under a ton, the forks themselves are probably 10 or 20 quid,
which is basically buying you two bits of gaspipe with a sockful of old
rubbers inside, held together with gaffer tape and wishful thinking.
You're far, far better off sticking with rigid forks, which will give you
just as a good a ride, soak up less power, give you more control and take
less looking after. Suspension forks don't get good until you're in the
several tens of pounds range at the very least.

That's just my 2p, anyway. Someone'll doubtless jump in and tell you that
shocks costing less than 250 UKP aren't worth bothering with ...

tom

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...

That's just my 2p, anyway. Someone'll doubtless jump in and tell you that
shocks costing less than 250 UKP aren't worth bothering with ...


I paid £120 for my bike and it's got lovely shocks.

But that's EBay for you ;-) 4 year old Scott midrange hybrid. Needed a new
chain and a bit of tweaking... for the amount I ride it it's perfect. And
about £300 less than a new one would have been!

But then my latest car was a £250 EBay bargain too - I fancied taking a
chance for a change...

You've probably never bought suspension that cheap for a powered
two-wheeler. Seriously, if you're getting a complete bike with boingy
forks for under a ton, the forks themselves are probably 10 or 20 quid,
which is basically buying you two bits of gaspipe with a sockful of old
rubbers inside, held together with gaffer tape and wishful thinking.
You're far, far better off sticking with rigid forks, which will give you
just as a good a ride, soak up less power, give you more control and take
less looking after. Suspension forks don't get good until you're in the
several tens of pounds range at the very least.

Thanks!