Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 wrote:
As the doors shut it turned out that three of them didnt want to
be on the train anyway. One woman wanted Willsden Junction and
another Richmond.

So it didn't call at Willesden Junction? That would seem like a
pretty obvious place to stop, given the interchanginess of it.
Still, sounds like the service was slow enough as it was.

The NLL platforms at Willesden Junction are only long enough for a
3-coach train.
--
Richard J.
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Martin Underwood wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 wrote:

So it didn't call at Willesden Junction? That would seem like a pretty
obvious place to stop, given the interchanginess of it. Still, sounds like
the service was slow enough as it was.

From a London Connections map dated summer 2000, the stations that it
stopped at we

- Stratford
- Highbury and Islington
- West Hampstead
[then a great BIG gap!]
- Feltham

Willeseden Junction would seem an eminently sensible place to stop
considering that it's a very important junction. I remember thinking this at
the time when I used that service.

Highbury and Islington gives you the interchange with the ECML (either via
the Moorgate branch or the Victoria Line) as well as a link with central
London. West Hampstead give you a link with the MML/Thameslink and with the
Jubilee line. I suppose it's close enough to Willesden Junction that you
coud get off there and catch a NLL train between WH between WJ.

Willesden Junction would be even more useful if they'd re-instate the
platforms on the slow lines. There's been talk of it for about twenty
years, but no signof it actually happening.

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Willesden Junction would be even more useful if they'd re-instate the
platforms on the slow lines. There's been talk of it for about twenty
years, but no signof it actually happening.

Oh! Are there four tracks at WJ High Level station? I've never noticed. I
thought it was just a pair of platofrms facing each other. Was there once an
island platform serving two tracks between the ones that the stopping trains
use?

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Willesden Junction would be even more useful if they'd re-instate
the platforms on the slow lines. There's been talk of it for
about twenty years, but no signof it actually happening.

Oh! Are there four tracks at WJ High Level station? I've never
noticed. I thought it was just a pair of platofrms facing each
other. Was there once an island platform serving two tracks between
the ones that the stopping trains use?

He's talking about the slow lines on the 4-track Euston-Watford main
line. WJ High Level (NLL) has just two tracks either side of a short
island platform.
--
Richard J.
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Willesden Junction would be even more useful if they'd re-instate
the platforms on the slow lines. There's been talk of it for
about twenty years, but no signof it actually happening.

Oh! Are there four tracks at WJ High Level station? I've never
noticed. I thought it was just a pair of platforms facing each
other. Was there once an island platform serving two tracks between
the ones that the stopping trains use?

He's talking about the slow lines on the 4-track Euston-Watford main
line. WJ High Level (NLL) has just two tracks either side of a short
island platform.

In that case, I've even more confused, because I thought that the platforms
at WJ LL *were* on the slow lines, the fast lines being the ones that bypass
the station altogether. Or are there six tracks here - two fast, two slow
and a *third* set that has the platforms?

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Willesden Junction would be even more useful if they'd re-instate
the platforms on the slow lines. There's been talk of it for
about twenty years, but no signof it actually happening.

Oh! Are there four tracks at WJ High Level station? I've never
noticed. I thought it was just a pair of platforms facing each
other. Was there once an island platform serving two tracks
between
the ones that the stopping trains use?

He's talking about the slow lines on the 4-track Euston-Watford
main line. WJ High Level (NLL) has just two tracks either side of
a short island platform.

In that case, I've even more confused, because I thought that the
platforms at WJ LL *were* on the slow lines, the fast lines being
the ones that bypass the station altogether. Or are there six
tracks here - two fast, two slow and a *third* set that has the
platforms?

Yes, I think you'll find that all the way to Watford, there are four
"main line" tracks and two DC tracks.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Martin Underwood wrote:

He's talking about the slow lines on the 4-track Euston-Watford main
line. WJ High Level (NLL) has just two tracks either side of a short
island platform.

In that case, I've even more confused, because I thought that the platforms
at WJ LL *were* on the slow lines, the fast lines being the ones that bypass
the station altogether. Or are there six tracks here - two fast, two slow
and a *third* set that has the platforms?

The fast and slow lines, which now have overhead a.c. electrification
were previously steam worked. The slow lines have platforms at Queens
Park, Wembly Central, Harrow & Wealdstone, bushey and Watford Junction,
though not all of these have a regular service. The d.c electrified
'new line' was built around First World War time, electrified on the
third and fourth rail system soon afterwards, and converted to third
rail in about 1970. This serves all stations between Euston and
Watford Junction, including some new ones which never existed before.
The new line runs to the East/North of the slow lines until South of
stonebridge Park, where they cross under the slow and fast lines to run
on the West side of them, to Bushey where they diverge sharply left to
serve Watford High Street before coming back alongside the main lines
just before Watford Junction, where they terminate in four, previously
five, bay platforms. Between Bushey and Watford High Street there was
a triangular junction, serving two branches, to Croxley Green, recently
closed after several years without trains, and Rickmansworth Church
Street, which closed long ago, along with the South side of the
triangle.

This line also had another Southern terminus at Broad Street, reached
via Primrose Hill.

The slow line platforms at Willesden Junction closed in about 1964,
they had previously been served by only a few trains. I believe the
fast lines also had platforms here at one time. The new line part of
the station had four platforms, including two bays, one of which has
been trackless for years. The signal box here stil carried the name
'Willesden New Station' until it was demolished not so many years ago.

The High Level station had three platforms, but was in poor condition
after the War, and was rebuilt in the '50s slightly further East, with
only two, short platforms.