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It doesn't take a quarter of the coach, either. It takes about 2 bays
(or 5-6 one-side rows of airlines) which is quite a bit less.


We weren't discussing the size of the disabled toilet - we were discussing
the area taken up by the disabled toilet, the seating reserved for
wheelchair passengers and their companions and for bicycle stowage, which

is
the entire area between one vestibule and the corridor connection at the

end
of the vehicle.

On the SET 375s one of the seats in this area is labelled for the use of the
conductor. Compare this with the space (two-fifths of a coach) originally
provided in 4VEPs for the guard and the van which, after it stopped being
used for mail and parcels, was reserved for wheelchair passengers, and their
companions who had to stand, and bicycle stowage. It was probably a minority
of services on which a bicycle was actually conveyed, let alone more
bicycles than can be stowed in a 375, and the wheelchair passengers in a
4VEP had no access to a toilet.

Peter


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Peter Masson wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Jun 2005:

and the wheelchair passengers in a
4VEP had no access to a toilet.

Given how often they're locked out of use, or the condition they are in
when they are not, have things actually improved much?
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