On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:39:04 +0100, Colin McKenzie
wrote:

And it wouldn't take an enormous change in the relative costs of fuel
and labour for RMs to be more economical per passenger mile than heavy
modern buses.

Perhaps - but in such circumstances couldn't a modern, lightweight OPO
bus be designed? Crew operation isn't really relevant to that
question, surely?

Neil

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

"Ian F." typed
"umpston" wrote in message
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Does this mean the existing 9 and 15 routes will remain, with a higher
frequency but that every 2nd or 3rd bus will be a RM in the central
area? Or will the heritage services have new route numbers?

I'll hazard a guess at H9 and H15.
Ummm... H9 already exists; it's the H10 doing the loop 'backwards'.

I'd vote for 9A and 15A - or perhaps 9H and 15H to stop people being
disappointed when they encounter the 77A!

I believe there was a time when a few route number suffix letters got
up to and beyond H.

Colin McKenzie

In message . 170,
Adrian writes
Yep and some regularly end up dieing.
Please explain?
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Neil Williams ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

couldn't a modern, lightweight OPO bus be designed?

It would seem not.

A modern double decker is about 150% the weight of an RM.
A bloatibus is about 250% the weight.

Crew operation isn't really relevant to that question, surely?

It's one of the excuses being used.

Clive ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

In message . 170,
Adrian writes
Yep and some regularly end up dieing.
Please explain?

I would, but I didn't say it.
Robert Woolley ) did.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:49:24 +0100, Colin McKenzie
wrote:



I believe there was a time when a few route number suffix letters got
up to and beyond H.


Not since the Bassom era. Certainly, post-war, the highest was
406F, and that only ran on Derby Day. Plenty of D suffixes, a few
"E" and that single "F".


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In message , Bill Hayles
writes
Not since the Bassom era. Certainly, post-war, the highest was 406F,
and that only ran on Derby Day. Plenty of D suffixes, a few "E" and
that single "F".
I remember an H1 flat fare bus in Harrow in the early seventies.
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Clive

Neil Williams wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 29 Jun 2005:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:39:04 +0100, Colin McKenzie
wrote:

And it wouldn't take an enormous change in the relative costs of fuel
and labour for RMs to be more economical per passenger mile than heavy
modern buses.

Perhaps - but in such circumstances couldn't a modern, lightweight OPO
bus be designed? Crew operation isn't really relevant to that
question, surely?

In many ways it is, since dwell times at stops are a great deal shorter,
and also, a conductor can help someone on to a bus (say, someone with
poor sight, or who can walk, but with difficulty) in a way that a driver
cannot.
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Clive ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

of bus route suffixes
Not since the Bassom era. Certainly, post-war, the highest was 406F,
and that only ran on Derby Day. Plenty of D suffixes, a few "E" and
that single "F".

I remember an H1 flat fare bus in Harrow in the early seventies.

Umm, that's a prefix, not a suffix.

In message . 170,
Adrian writes
Umm, that's a prefix, not a suffix.
My mistake, not reading posts carefully enough.
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Clive