On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:02:44 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote:

On a bus this afternoon, I was sitting on one of the jump-seats in the
wheelchair area. A girl with a buggy got on and glared at me until I got up
and gave her my place.

Most people think moving for "a girl with a buggy" is the polite thing
to do. Clearly your manners are deficient.

You have a choice of the *any vacant seat* (or even the top deck of a
double), whilst she has the choice of one or two seats near the only
available space to put her push-chair out of the way of other
passengers.

If the alternative was leaving the push-chair is the aisle, and then
sitting as cross to it as possible, it seems she made the right
decision for the greater comfort of all passengers.

The signage clearly says that the space is for wheelchairs - since when have
Big Mac-chomping, income support-claiming chav slappers with wailing brats
require the same level of concern as people in wheelchairs?

So what were YOU doing in the wheel-chair place? Was there not ANY
other seat on the bus?

Was she really eating a Big-Mac on the bus? How do you *know* she was
on income-support? Are these just unsubstantiated rantings, or or are
you just bleating because of YOUR selfishness?

Sounds like you need to think of others and put yourself in the place
of someone travelling with a child in a push-chair doing their best to
minimise inconvenience to other passengers - not just some oh-so
precious git in the jump-seat.

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"Jason" wrote in message
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Most people think moving for "a girl with a buggy" is the polite thing
to do. Clearly your manners are deficient.

Well, I don't. I think it's polite to move for an elderly person. Or for a
pregnant woman. Or for a disabled person. Please don't lecture me on
manners, sonny.

You have a choice of the *any vacant seat* (or even the top deck of a
double), whilst she has the choice of one or two seats near the only
available space to put her push-chair out of the way of other
passengers.

It's her choice to bring her whingeing brat onto public transport. I had no
other choice of seat, and precious little standing space.

The signage clearly says that the space is for wheelchairs - since when
have
Big Mac-chomping, income support-claiming chav slappers with wailing brats
require the same level of concern as people in wheelchairs?

So what were YOU doing in the wheel-chair place?

Er - there were no wheelchairs in it.

Was there not ANY other seat on the bus?

No, not one. And very little standing space. By manhanddling her wretched
machine onto the bus, she caused upset and disruption to several passengers.

Was she really eating a Big-Mac on the bus?

Not at that time, no. Her gob was too full of chewing-gum.

How do you *know* she was on income-support?

Beacuse this sort of person invariably is. I know - I pay for it.

Are these just unsubstantiated rantings, or or are you just bleating
because of YOUR selfishness?

How is it selfish to expect kids with brats not to think the world revolves
around them and their procreational activities? My rant is well
substantiated.

Ian

Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


It's her choice to bring her whingeing brat onto public transport. I had no
other choice of seat, and precious little standing space.

a) Why is someone else's child automatically a "whingeing brat"

b) Was it not equally *your* choice to use public transport?

c) What about, as I saw yesterday evening, when a middle-class father
brings *his* child on to a bus in an unfolded pushchair? I suppose
*he's* a "chav slapper" and the articulate, intelligent 19-month-old is
a "whingeing brat"? Yes?

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


It's her choice to bring her whingeing brat onto public transport. I had
no
other choice of seat, and precious little standing space.

a) Why is someone else's child automatically a "whingeing brat"

b) Was it not equally *your* choice to use public transport?

c) What about, as I saw yesterday evening, when a middle-class father
brings *his* child on to a bus in an unfolded pushchair? I suppose
*he's* a "chav slapper" and the articulate, intelligent 19-month-old is
a "whingeing brat"? Yes?

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.
--
"Mrs Redboots"

So are mine, because I agree with Ian all the way!
Dave G

Dashe wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
...

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.
--
"Mrs Redboots"

So are mine, because I agree with Ian all the way!
Dave G


You mean that you agree that any mother who takes her child on a bus is
automatically a prostitute and/or dole fiddler, with the child born out
of wedlock? Which is what Ian is *saying*, even if it isn't what he
*means*! And it is that to which I take exception.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Dashe wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
...

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.
--
"Mrs Redboots"

So are mine, because I agree with Ian all the way!
Dave G


You mean that you agree that any mother who takes her child on a bus is
automatically a prostitute and/or dole fiddler, with the child born out
of wedlock? Which is what Ian is *saying*, even if it isn't what he
*means*! And it is that to which I take exception.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005


Must have a computer glitch - can't find anywhere that Ian said that
Dave G

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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You mean that you agree that any mother who takes her child on a bus is
automatically a prostitute and/or dole fiddler, with the child born out
of wedlock? Which is what Ian is *saying*, even if it isn't what he
*means*! And it is that to which I take exception.

Utter twaddle. Is this correct: "A cow is an animal, therefore all animals
are cows"? No? Well, that's what *you're* saying!

Ian

Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Sat, 2 Jul 2005:

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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You mean that you agree that any mother who takes her child on a bus is
automatically a prostitute and/or dole fiddler, with the child born out
of wedlock? Which is what Ian is *saying*, even if it isn't what he
*means*! And it is that to which I take exception.

Utter twaddle. Is this correct: "A cow is an animal, therefore all animals
are cows"? No? Well, that's what *you're* saying!

Hmmm. You wrote:

"That doesn't alter the fact that I, a 55 year-old, am expected to jump
up and hand over my seat the minute some 17 year-old chav slapper gets
on the bus with a buggy the size of Peckham!"

Which implies that your sole experience with buggy-wielding mothers is
that of "17 year-old chav slappers", a phrase to which I have several
times objected.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

In article , (Dashe) wrote:

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


It's her choice to bring her whingeing brat onto public transport. I
had no other choice of seat, and precious little standing space.

a) Why is someone else's child automatically a "whingeing brat"

b) Was it not equally *your* choice to use public transport?

c) What about, as I saw yesterday evening, when a middle-class father
brings *his* child on to a bus in an unfolded pushchair? I suppose
*he's* a "chav slapper" and the articulate, intelligent 19-month-old
is a "whingeing brat"? Yes?

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.

So are mine, because I agree with Ian all the way!

You should be ashamed of yourself.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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In article , (Dashe) wrote:

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Ian F. wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 1 Jul 2005:


It's her choice to bring her whingeing brat onto public transport. I
had no other choice of seat, and precious little standing space.

a) Why is someone else's child automatically a "whingeing brat"

b) Was it not equally *your* choice to use public transport?

c) What about, as I saw yesterday evening, when a middle-class father
brings *his* child on to a bus in an unfolded pushchair? I suppose
*he's* a "chav slapper" and the articulate, intelligent 19-month-old
is a "whingeing brat"? Yes?

I hate to tell you, but your prejudices are showing.

So are mine, because I agree with Ian all the way!

You should be ashamed of yourself.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

That's a bugger - cos I'm not!
Dave G