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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:03:07 +0100, Tom Anderson
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, the new avenger wrote:


Part of the duties of Centrecomm, the Transport for London bus Control
Centre, involve coordinating bus operations and liaison with the
emergency services and local authorities in any major incident in the
Capital. There are very comprehensive emergency procedures under which
service buses can be commandeered for removal of casualties and for the
transport of persons involved in the aftermath. Centrecomm is at the
heart of these activities.


I've never heard of them before. Do they have a bunker? Please tell me
they have a bunker.

tom



Hardly. Centrecomm is part of London Buses and is based at Company
HQ.

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Robert Woolley wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:03:07 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, the new avenger wrote:

Part of the duties of Centrecomm, the Transport for London bus Control
Centre, involve coordinating bus operations and liaison with the
emergency services and local authorities in any major incident in the
Capital. There are very comprehensive emergency procedures under which
service buses can be commandeered for removal of casualties and for
the transport of persons involved in the aftermath. Centrecomm is at
the heart of these activities.


I've never heard of them before. Do they have a bunker? Please tell me
they have a bunker.


Hardly. Centrecomm is part of London Buses and is based at Company
HQ.


They need a bunker.

tom

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:30:55 +0100, Tom Anderson
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Hardly. Centrecomm is part of London Buses and is based at Company
HQ.


They need a bunker.


Presumably if the situation was bad enough to need a bunker, said
buses probably won't be any use anyway, or people could just take and
use them as required as law and order would likely have broken down.

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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:03:07 +0100, Tom Anderson
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, the new avenger wrote:

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London
this morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.

Is there any precedent for this, I wonder?

I'm sure we did this after the Clapham crash - by local arrangement
though.

P
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Ian Jelf wrote:
The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London
this morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.


I have to say, I hope they weren't used to transport the survivors of
the bus bomb.

How traumatic to be packed on to ANOTHER bus after that.



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oups.com...
Ian Jelf wrote:
The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London
this morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.


I have to say, I hope they weren't used to transport the survivors of
the bus bomb.

How traumatic to be packed on to ANOTHER bus after that.



Unfortunately, its hard to observe such niceties at times like these. With
the Ambulance Service at full stretch, it is necessary to use any
alternative transport for walking wounded (so that emergency vehicles can be
concentrated on stretcher patients needing advanced life support). The LAS
will be utilising as many PTS (outpatient) vehicles where they can. But
buses are ideal and already in the areas affected so time can be saved.

The buses may also have been moving people who are uninjured and not
directly involved: ie those caught up in the disruption.

In situations such as this, pragmatism has to win out over sentimentality
I'm afraid.

Simon


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"the new avenger" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Ian Jelf wrote:
The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London
this morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.


I have to say, I hope they weren't used to transport the survivors of
the bus bomb.

How traumatic to be packed on to ANOTHER bus after that.



Unfortunately, its hard to observe such niceties at times like these. With
the Ambulance Service at full stretch, it is necessary to use any
alternative transport for walking wounded (so that emergency vehicles can
be concentrated on stretcher patients needing advanced life support). The
LAS will be utilising as many PTS (outpatient) vehicles where they can.
But buses are ideal and already in the areas affected so time can be
saved.

The buses may also have been moving people who are uninjured and not
directly involved: ie those caught up in the disruption.

In situations such as this, pragmatism has to win out over sentimentality
I'm afraid.

Simon

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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London this
morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.

Is there any precedent for this, I wonder?


Yes.

World War 2. .... don't EFE have a bus in US ambulance colours?

and to a lesser extent ...
World War 1.



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"ian henden" wrote in message
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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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The use of ordinary service buses to transport the injured in London

this
morning appears to have been a widespread and planned-for action.

Is there any precedent for this, I wonder?


Yes.

World War 2. .... don't EFE have a bus in US ambulance colours?

and to a lesser extent ...
World War 1.


Also all bus drivers in Kent and Sussex (and other areas I assume) where
issued with instructions during WW2 as to what to do if they where on normal
stage carriage service and the Germans invaded.

Basically it was a scheme to ferry as many of the population as far away
from the South Coast as possible using buses already in the area.

Thankfully it was never needed!

Regards
John M Upton


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and to a lesser extent ...
World War 1.


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Indeed, the drivers of the London General Omnibus Company actually
drove some of their B class buses to the front in Flanders. An example
of such a bus is in the Imperial War Museum, and this is the reason
that its drivers and those of its successor, London Transport, and now
the privatised bus companies (ironically one of them being the
General!) are allowed to parade before the Cenotaph on Remembrance
Sunday.



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