"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

So change the way you live. You'd have to if you lost your job for any
reason.

Nonsense! I wouldn't have to change anything. I've lost, been fired from, or
made redundant from several jobs over my 30+year career and never had to
change the way I live.

I quite agree, but imagine having clients who treated you in just that
manner.

I have a couple. I defer to them, think about the enormous cheques at the
end of the month, bite my lip, and get on with it!

How long do you think it would be before you adopted a similar
outlook and behaviour? (If you say "Never" then I would suggest you are
not
a very effective PR type.)

Never! Which makes me *very* effective at what I do.

And what's a 'PR type'?

Ian

Ian F. wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

So change the way you live. You'd have to if you lost your job for
any reason.

Nonsense! I wouldn't have to change anything. I've lost, been fired
from, or made redundant from several jobs over my 30+year career and
never had to change the way I live.

Then what leads you to believe couldn't live on bus driver's money?


I quite agree, but imagine having clients who treated you in just
that manner.

I have a couple. I defer to them, think about the enormous cheques at
the end of the month, bite my lip, and get on with it!

However, bus drivers don't get enormous cheques at the end of the month nor
do they have the counterbalance of a majority of
customers/clients/passengers treating them decently and being appreciative
of their efforts.


How long do you think it would be before you adopted a similar
outlook and behaviour? (If you say "Never" then I would suggest you
are not
a very effective PR type.)

Never! Which makes me *very* effective at what I do.

Are you seriously suggesting that you don't "get in tune" with the ethos,
style or working etc and general attitude prevailing amongst the people you
deal with?


And what's a 'PR type'?

Someone who works in PR and is suited to that type of work.

DEVASTATED even........ : )

In message , "tim (moved to sweden)"
writes
Don't be fooled by the glossy adverts and ****.

First of all that £500 is before any stoppages.
And after overtime. In this day and age why should anyone need to work
overtime to get a living wage?
--
Clive

In message , Ian F.
writes
his total lack of communication or interpersonal skills.
They are bus drivers not PR.. consultants. As long as they drive a bus
safety and get you where you've paid to go what else do you want? When,
by the way, was the last time you tipped one?
--
Clive

Nicholas D Richards wrote:

I write as a non-public service pensioner on less than 500 GBP a week.
So I do not have an axe to grind. Phil Richards has still not told us
what he earns and for what.

Obviously I'm not prepared to disclose my salary in public except it's way
under £500 per week. And yes it does involve dealing face to face with the
public along with their bad tempers and abuses in a transport/travel
related enviroment.

Satisfied?

--
Phil Richards
London, UK
Home Page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

On the subject of bus drivers see my post above about Vauxhall Cross.

Kevin

Phil Richards wrote:
Nicholas D Richards wrote:

Obviously I'm not prepared to disclose my salary in public except it's way
under £500 per week. And yes it does involve dealing face to face with the
public along with their bad tempers and abuses in a transport/travel
related enviroment.

A London Transport bus driver earns £8.60 an hour (it's advertised on
the buses). According to European Law a bus driver cannot work for more
than 54 hours in a single week and 90 hours in any two consecutive
weeks.

So assuming our driver does the full 90 hours in 2 weeks he will make
£774 in those two weeks (averaging £387 a week). Even in a week where
he works 54 hours he will make only £464.40 (less than £500).

Tube drivers make more though I don't know why, their job seems less
difficult to do. I don't know how much a bus driver could make if
instead he joined a private coach company.

I do personally think bus drivers are underpaid. I also think that bus
services are generally badly run, especially where 2 different routes
follow the same route for a long period and their timetables are not
synchronised thus leading to bunching. And some routes have too many
buses, there are very few "express" services and very few that go along
primary routes and too many that go down minor roads that are too
narrow. But that is not the fault of the bus driver.