"Ross" wrote in message
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No you don't, any more than you *have* to use Woolworths,

What a fatuous analogy! There are dozens of shops that sell the same items
as Woolworths.

And yet they don't seem to have any problems making a profit

I think you'll find they do!

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Ian

"Ian F." wrote in message
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"Ross" wrote in message
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No you don't, any more than you *have* to use Woolworths,

What a fatuous analogy! There are dozens of shops that sell the same items
as Woolworths.

Just as millions of people find alternative methods of travelling to the
train.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:50:36 +0100, Ian F. wrote in
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"Ross" wrote in message
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No you don't, any more than you *have* to use Woolworths,

What a fatuous analogy! There are dozens of shops that sell the same items
as Woolworths.

I assume that by "fatuous analogy" you mean "Oh, ****, he doesn't
agree with me and I can't come up with a decent argument"?

In case you haven't noticed, there are far more methods of transport
than just trains. Of course, if you wish to only consider one method
(be that train, bus, car or elephant), that's up to you.


And yet they don't seem to have any problems making a profit

I think you'll find they do!
rest of post snipped due to lack of credibility

Yup, I was right. You can't come up with a decent argument so you try
to claim my point isn't credible.

Still, the fact that you are unable to defend your own assertions says
everything I need to know about the value of your own position.


It's very noticeable that throughout this thread there are plenty of
people posting about how awful transport staff are and how the
business is a monopoly, but only who is actually willing to justify
his statements - and he's not one of the people who's claiming poor
staff. All the rest either go quiet or start stonewalling when their
views are challenged.

Strange that. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact they know
they're talking ********?

--
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:21:09 +0100, Ross
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:50:36 +0100, Ian F. wrote in
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"Ross" wrote in message
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No you don't, any more than you *have* to use Woolworths,

Snip

And yet they don't seem to have any problems making a profit

I think you'll find they do!
rest of post snipped due to lack of credibility

Yup, I was right. You can't come up with a decent argument so you try
to claim my point isn't credible.

Just in case anyone is interested in facts, see
http://www.companyannouncements.net/...00271040K.html
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org

"Ross" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:50:36 +0100, Ian F. wrote in
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"Ross" wrote in message
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It's very noticeable that throughout this thread there are plenty of
people posting about how awful transport staff are and how the
business is a monopoly, but only who is actually willing to justify
his statements - and he's not one of the people who's claiming poor
staff. All the rest either go quiet or start stonewalling when their
views are challenged.

Strange that. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact they know
they're talking ********?

--
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com

Two points in reply
1) Public transport staff I meet on my travels are very nearly all fine to
deal with. The ones who are difficult are a very small minority and we can
all have the odd bad day.
2) Trains do have effective monopolies. For example train is the only public
transport to Manchester from my town unless I want to use a succession of
local buses

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:39:48 GMT, Tom Haliax wrote in
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Two points in reply
1) Public transport staff I meet on my travels are very nearly all fine to
deal with. The ones who are difficult are a very small minority and we can
all have the odd bad day.

Quite. There *are* some complete arseholes working in the transport
industry, I know this from my own experience, but then there are
complete arseholes working everywhere. My problem with the comments in
this thread is that some people seem to be asserting that it is *only*
the transport industry which has arseholes working for it.


2) Trains do have effective monopolies. For example train is the only public
transport to Manchester from my town unless I want to use a succession of
local buses

Um. Straw man, I think. You're making rail a monopoly by specifying a
small usage sector in your argument. If you make the wider argument,
by discussing available transport rather than only public transport, I
should think it's a very different story.

To give a concrete example: rail has the monopoly of public transport
business between Lincoln and Nottingham, because the only public
transport competition is an occasional National Express coach.
However, rail carries only a minority of Lincoln - Nottingham
travellers, because the majority use the car.

--
Ross, Lincoln, UK

We're *not* afraid
http://www.werenotafraid.com