@@@@@
Daily Mirror, 25 July 2005: Ian Blair insisted yesterday police
shoot-to-kill rules of engagement were necessary to protect lives. The
Met police chief faced off critics as he apologised for the shocking
blunder in which innocent Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was
shot dead by officers hunting the London bombers. Jean, 27, was blasted
five times in the head. Sir Ian said: "We're quite comfortable the
policy is right but these are difficult times. They (the rules) have to
be that. There's no point in shooting at someone's chest because that's
where a bomb is likely to be. . .The only way to deal with it is to
shoot to the head."
@@@@@@

Tsk, tsk. . .so it has come to this: The Great Anglo-Saxon Powers claim
their *War on Terror* strategy from George A. Romero's zombie hunting
handbook.

Nearly as appalling as the senseless murder of de Menezes is the
complete lack of reflection on the part of the Anglo-Saxon Powers. This
brutal murder is the *War on Terror* in microcosm. Ever since *9/11,*
the *coalition of the willing* have been scrambling around from
Afghanistan to Iraq like trigger happy Keystone Kops, killing thousands
and thousands of dark-skinned others in an unending series of
*regrettable mistakes.*

After last Thursday's dud *terror* attack on the London subway, limey
Prime Minister Tony Blair opined about the *evil ones*:

"Everyone is canny enough to know what these people are trying to do -
whoever is responsible for this latest incident - and that is to
intimidate people and to scare them and to frighten them, to stop them
going about their normal business."

Less than 24 hours later, fear was frozen on the face of a remarkably
unfortunate Brazilian electrician named Jean Charles de Menezes. .
..here is how this man was exited from the Land of the Living:

"As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left
to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a
cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified," said eyewitness Mike
Whitby. "He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and
couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time.
He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor. The policeman nearest to
me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand, he held it down to
the guy and unloaded five shots into him."

Mr. Blair, just who is terrorizing who?

The next time Blair or Bush stand before the world and preach of the
virtue of their war, try to remember the last moments of Jean Charles
de Menezes:

"He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered
rabbit, like a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified."
But the truth is, there have been thousands of such moments in
Afghanistan and Iraq. . .

But you would think that maybe, with one of these corpses right there
at his own rush hour feet, a decent *Christian* chap like Tony Blair
might stop for a moment, might reflect upon the crime. . .might pause
his part in the *War on Terror* for a whole minute or two and ask
himself if he's chosen the correct course. After all, it was only the
day before the pointless murder of the Brazilian electrician that Mr.
Blair had bragged on himself and his fellow countrymen for their
response to the subway attacks:

"It doesn't change us. It is not going to change what we do. To react
in any other way is to engage in the game they want us to engage in."

So in haste, so in panic, so in a *rush to judgment,* the state murders
a Brazilian electrician. . .and winks at its own crime. Just as the
Anglo-Saxon states have winked at their thousands of murders in
Afghanistan and Iraq (which, if one gives a very generous benefit of
doubt to the Powers That Be, is the result of the haste, panic and rush
to judgment after the famous *9/11*). And while the Anglo-Saxon powers
have never been saintly, there has been a post-*9/11* change, contrary
to Mr. Blair's claims: the veneers of humanitarianism, rationality and
the respect for truth have been stripped away. The helter-skelter
murder of Jean Charles de Menezes is one more symptom of post-*9/11*
Anglo-Saxon criminal irrationality, joining the Afghan Convoy of Death,
*Gitmo,* Abu Ghraib, Fallujah, etc.

The *War on Terror* has always been ugly . . .now it is not only ugly,
but a farce, as well. . .a gruesome farce. . .idiot cops chasing
*terror* shadows. . .shooting stray coloreds, then scraping away the
mess and issuing, as London Metropolitan Police Chief Ian Blair did,
the following chillingly banal paradox of the *War on the Terror:*

"Somebody else could be shot. But everything is done to make it right.
.. ."

Conclusion at:

http://hometown.aol.com/thejman99

wrote:
@@@@@
Daily Mirror, 25 July 2005: Ian Blair insisted yesterday police
shoot-to-kill rules of engagement were necessary to protect lives. The
Met police chief faced off critics as he apologised for the shocking
blunder in which innocent Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was
shot dead by officers hunting the London bombers. Jean, 27, was blasted
five times in the head. Sir Ian said: "We're quite comfortable the
policy is right but these are difficult times. They (the rules) have to
be that. There's no point in shooting at someone's chest because that's
where a bomb is likely to be. . .The only way to deal with it is to
shoot to the head."
@@@@@@

Tsk, tsk. . .so it has come to this: The Great Anglo-Saxon Powers claim
their *War on Terror* strategy from George A. Romero's zombie hunting
handbook.

Nearly as appalling as the senseless murder of de Menezes is the
complete lack of reflection on the part of the Anglo-Saxon Powers. This
brutal murder is the *War on Terror* in microcosm. Ever since *9/11,*
the *coalition of the willing* have been scrambling around from
Afghanistan to Iraq like trigger happy Keystone Kops, killing thousands
and thousands of dark-skinned others in an unending series of
*regrettable mistakes.*

After last Thursday's dud *terror* attack on the London subway, limey
Prime Minister Tony Blair opined about the *evil ones*:

"Everyone is canny enough to know what these people are trying to do -
whoever is responsible for this latest incident - and that is to
intimidate people and to scare them and to frighten them, to stop them
going about their normal business."

Less than 24 hours later, fear was frozen on the face of a remarkably
unfortunate Brazilian electrician named Jean Charles de Menezes. .
.here is how this man was exited from the Land of the Living:

"As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left
to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a
cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified," said eyewitness Mike
Whitby. "He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and
couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time.
He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor. The policeman nearest to
me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand, he held it down to
the guy and unloaded five shots into him."

Mr. Blair, just who is terrorizing who?

The next time Blair or Bush stand before the world and preach of the
virtue of their war, try to remember the last moments of Jean Charles
de Menezes:

"He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered
rabbit, like a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified."
But the truth is, there have been thousands of such moments in
Afghanistan and Iraq. . .

But you would think that maybe, with one of these corpses right there
at his own rush hour feet, a decent *Christian* chap like Tony Blair
might stop for a moment, might reflect upon the crime. . .might pause
his part in the *War on Terror* for a whole minute or two and ask
himself if he's chosen the correct course. After all, it was only the
day before the pointless murder of the Brazilian electrician that Mr.
Blair had bragged on himself and his fellow countrymen for their
response to the subway attacks:

"It doesn't change us. It is not going to change what we do. To react
in any other way is to engage in the game they want us to engage in."

So in haste, so in panic, so in a *rush to judgment,* the state murders
a Brazilian electrician. . .and winks at its own crime. Just as the
Anglo-Saxon states have winked at their thousands of murders in
Afghanistan and Iraq (which, if one gives a very generous benefit of
doubt to the Powers That Be, is the result of the haste, panic and rush
to judgment after the famous *9/11*). And while the Anglo-Saxon powers
have never been saintly, there has been a post-*9/11* change, contrary
to Mr. Blair's claims: the veneers of humanitarianism, rationality and
the respect for truth have been stripped away. The helter-skelter
murder of Jean Charles de Menezes is one more symptom of post-*9/11*
Anglo-Saxon criminal irrationality, joining the Afghan Convoy of Death,
*Gitmo,* Abu Ghraib, Fallujah, etc.

The *War on Terror* has always been ugly . . .now it is not only ugly,
but a farce, as well. . .a gruesome farce. . .idiot cops chasing
*terror* shadows. . .shooting stray coloreds, then scraping away the
mess and issuing, as London Metropolitan Police Chief Ian Blair did,
the following chillingly banal paradox of the *War on the Terror:*

"Somebody else could be shot. But everything is done to make it right.
. ."

Conclusion at:

http://hometown.aol.com/thejman99

I cannot write how I feel when I think what happened to him or what
went through his mind. If these bombings never happened I can
understand the uproar but why run in the first place and why run into
the Underground ? We know these bombers are intent on killing civilians
- can the police take the chance ? I feel so sorry for what happened to
him.

On 26 Jul 2005 11:55:39 -0700, wrote:

I cannot write how I feel when I think what happened to him or what
went through his mind. If these bombings never happened I can
understand the uproar but why run in the first place and why run into
the Underground ? We know these bombers are intent on killing civilians
- can the police take the chance ? I feel so sorry for what happened to
him.

Imagine you've left your flat and travelled three miles - including
part of the journey on a bus - and nothing unusual has happened to
you. You get inside the Tube station, and are in the process of
buying a ticket when suddenly a gang of men in plain-clothes come
running in waving guns and _not_ (apparently) identifying themselves
as police. Are you positive you wouldn't panic and run for you live?
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

And another one who wont explain why this illegal immigrant in fear of
his life didn't ask the police at Stockwell for protection. When is one
of these ****s going to answer the question.

Kevin

wrote in message
oups.com...
And another one who wont explain why this illegal immigrant in fear of
his life didn't ask the police at Stockwell for protection. When is one
of these ****s going to answer the question.

Kevin


Well said that man

"Bob man" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
And another one who wont explain why this illegal immigrant in fear of
his life didn't ask the police at Stockwell for protection. When is one
of these ****s going to answer the question.

Kevin


Well said that man

Ian Blair keeps telling us that a policeman must make a life or death
decision in a split second and on this occasion they got it wrong. Why is
the same excuse invalid for an innocent man facing a gang of gun toting
thugs?
--
Malcolm

wrote:
And another one who wont explain why this illegal immigrant in fear of
his life didn't ask the police at Stockwell for protection. When is one
of these ****s going to answer the question.

So if you were in a Tube station, buying a ticket and a load of men
came in screaming unintelligibly and waving guns, you would think,
"Now, what's happening here? Must look around to see if there are any
police officers I can ask for help..." Would you ****. Like most
people, you would run for your life.

In message .com, at
05:44:42 on Wed, 27 Jul 2005, remarked:
So if you were in a Tube station, buying a ticket and a load of men
came in screaming unintelligibly and waving guns, you would think,
"Now, what's happening here? Must look around to see if there are any
police officers I can ask for help..." Would you ****. Like most
people, you would run for your life.

On the other hand, if I were outside and started to be pursued by armed
police...
--
Roland Perry

Are all you people complete f**king idiots. Since the 7 July and
especially since the incident at the adjacent station on the previous
day, each tube station has been ringed by police in very, very bright
yellow jackets. Only a complete idiot could fail to have noticed them.
The guy was not in the ticket hall buying a ticket, he ran in and had
enough presence to vault the gates.
You are dead right that I would run for my life but past goodness knows
how many policemen, vault a 4 foot high barrier, get cornered in tube
train.
Lets face it the guy was a complete and utter (innocent for all the
liberals) idiot.
Reminds me of the idiotic scenaio that you see in so many films that
makes for good movies but you can't help thinking what a pratt, when
being chased you run up a fire escape to the top of a very tall
building and well get stuffed basicly.

Kevin

In message , at 07:39:08 on Wed, 27
Jul 2005, Nick Cooper
remarked:
Imagine you've left your flat and travelled three miles - including
part of the journey on a bus - and nothing unusual has happened to
you. You get inside the Tube station, and are in the process of
buying a ticket when suddenly a gang of men in plain-clothes come
running in waving guns and _not_ (apparently) identifying themselves
as police. Are you positive you wouldn't panic and run for you live?

Hypothetical, if what really happened was:

"As Mr Menezes waited to cross the busy main road, the decision was
taken at Scotland Yard that he must not be allowed to get to the
platform.

The marksmen were told: if you think he has explosives under his coat
and he fails to heed shouted warnings, then you must shoot to kill.

As the three plain-clothes officers closed in on Mr Menezes, they say
that they screamed their first warning that they were armed police.
Their version is that he turned, ran into the station concourse, vaulted
the ticket barriers and reached a waiting train before they could catch
him."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...707480,00.html
--
Roland Perry