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Default Thameslink 2000 Blackfriars

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:59:56 GMT, "Graham J"
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Presumably such tight to gauge tunnels exist on the section of line
between Kentish Town and Farringdon.

It's a double-track tunnel.


I wonder if the decision is based upon the premise that if two trains,
travelling in opposite directions, became stuck in the tunnels it would be
impossible to detrain passengers using the side doors, either to the cess

or
the six foot. Hence the requirement for end doors.


I was wondering if perhaps the widened lines from Moorgate to King's Cross
Thameslink were still considered as part of the London Underground system at
the time and so found themselves having to meet extra requirements because
of that, regardless of the actual practicalities.

Do we actually know if the same restriction applies to this day? The 319s
have been around quite a while after all.



I am wondering if the end door requirement wasn't because of tight to
gauge tunnels, but because of allowing driver access between units.
Not just in tunnels but anywhere, someone may have thought it a handy
option. I know at London Bridge on the multiple lines there, t has
been a handy feature when having to set back trapped trains. No
necessity to block other lines whilst the driver changed ends and
crossing between units. Not such a luxury with 465/386 trains.

Prior to Thameslink, didn't slam door stock (DMUs) use the lines from
Moorgate via Farringdon to Kentish Town. They had no end doors.

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