David Bennetts wrote:
"wb" wrote in message
...

"David Bennetts" Sydney's system is
powered by overhead wire, so that danger
doesn't exist in Sydney's tunnels.. Vince Graham continues to
defend the indefensible in continuing to maintain the policy of
locking people in trains without any passenger actuated door
releases available, and the absence of any devices to enable
passengers to break or remove strengthened glass windows in
trains to escape.


And the EDR's on the outside, and dont the V and M sets EDRs still
require a key?
And I understand the G and T set Tangaras. In my opinion these
flaps should be modified so that they are left unlocked whilst the
trains are in service, and only locked when the train is stabled.
You don't want one or two staff to be fumbling around for keys to
release passengers in the event of an emergency.

EDRs? V and M? G and T? Tangaras?
Can we please have a translation for the benefit of the
uk.transport.london people you're crossposting to?

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:

EDRs?

Emergency door releases.

V and M? G and T? Tangaras?

V-set, double-deck interurban EMUs

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/v_control.jsp
http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/v_trailer.jsp

M-set, "Millenium" double-deck suburban EMUs

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/m_control.jsp
http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/m_motor.jsp

T-set, Tangara suburban EMUs

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/t_control.jsp
http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/t_trailer.jsp

G-set, Tangara double-deck interurban EMUs

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/g_control.jsp
http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/g_trailer.jsp

All the best,

Mark.

David Bennetts wrote:

And I understand the G and T set Tangaras. In my opinion these
flaps should be modified so that they are left unlocked whilst the
trains are in service

Not all EDRs on T-sets require a key.

David Bennetts wrote:

I read with interest the following article:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...8,16201875%25-
5E1702,00.html

This is the first I have heard that any passengers evacuating trains
in London during last month's terror attacks were electrocuted by a
live rail. Was that true? Sydney's system is powered by overhead
wire, so that danger doesn't exist in Sydney's tunnels.

If the wire is down, and still live, danger exists.

"Richard J." wrote:

First I've heard of it here in London too.

I emailed Transport for London directly and this was their reply....

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Subject
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The two stories below appeared today in the Sydney Morning Herald and
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Discussion Thread
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Response (Matthew Gifford) - 10/08/2005 12.05 PM
Dear Bill

Thanks for your message.

No passengers were electrocuted during the evacuation on 07/07.

Kind regards

Matthew Gifford

LUL Customer Services

0845 330 9880

*****

Cheers,

Bill

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia

Many thanks, Bill

Mr Vince Graham has some explaining to do.

Regards

David Bennetts

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:51:35 +1000, "David Bennetts"
wrote:

Many thanks, Bill

Mr Vince Graham has some explaining to do.

Regards

David Bennetts

Hmm, bearing in mind that an ex-LUL Director is now in charge of the
Sydney rail authority, would hope so.


Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

David Bennetts wrote:

I read with interest the following article:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E1702,00.html

This is the first I have heard that any passengers evacuating trains in
London during last month's terror attacks were electrocuted by a live rail.
Was that true? Sydney's system is powered by overhead wire, so that danger
doesn't exist in Sydney's tunnels.. Vince Graham continues to defend the
indefensible in continuing to maintain the policy of locking people in
trains without any passenger actuated door releases available, and the
absence of any devices to enable passengers to break or remove strengthened
glass windows in trains to escape.


In the interview I heard with one of the drivers on the Piccadilly Line
train (there was a relief driver travelling in the cab because it was
too busy in the passenger compartment) on BBC News, he said that the
first thing they did was to apply the Short Circuit device to the rails,
thus making the tracks safe

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:34:08 +1000, "wb"
wrote:


"David Bennetts" Sydney's system is powered
by overhead wire, so that danger
doesn't exist in Sydney's tunnels.. Vince Graham continues to defend the
indefensible in continuing to maintain the policy of locking people in
trains without any passenger actuated door releases available, and the
absence of any devices to enable passengers to break or remove
strengthened glass windows in trains to escape.


And the EDR's on the outside, and dont the V and M sets EDRs still require a
key?

S, R, L, V and M sets require a bilock key.

T and G sets do not require any key.

When stabled correctly (never), the T and G set EDRs are disabled.

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David Johnson
usenet.at.trainman.id.au
http://www.trainman.id.au
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