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If this is the case (and I'm always wary of the media when they
"uncover
secret documents") then the police appear to have been somewhat gung ho
to say the least. And how many bullets in the head does it take to kill
someone when you're firing at point blank range and they're
immobilised?
Why 10 bullets for gods sake?? Also if they are immobilised you can
possibly see if they have a trigger in their hands and if not why shoot
them?
After all, if the bomb is on automatic then killing the bomber won't
stop it
going off. All very strange.

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It is indeed "Strange" Boltar.....
I was in London on the day of this chap`s ..........Killing.....and I too
heard at first hand the Police description of their operation.
It is fair to say that they were portraying it as a Definite score against
the original terror cell.
My partner was immediately sceptical and focused on certain words in the
early announcements which were less than solid in their meaning.
As the evening wore on and indeed the following days it became apparrent
that Mr De Menenzes had indeed been "Executed" by the Police.
The poor fellow is dead and so beyond worrying about these things,however as
my partner,who has two adult offspring living in London,rather appositely
pointed out..."It could easily have been my children".
For whatever reason the Metropolitan Police operation revolving around Mr De
Menenzes residence failed in ALL of its operational requirements and this
presents a very worrying scenario for ALL UK citizens and visitors.
From the small amount of hard information which is being reported in the
media the Police enquiry appears to be missing some pertinent CCTV footage
of the actual despatch of the Brazilian.
However the officers who actually took part in the "Suppression" of their
Target are a far better source of information than any CCTV will ever be.
The Acid Test will be whether any of these Officers will be self-confident
and of sufficient moral-fibre to stand up in open court and admit to a
failure to adhere to the laws of Humanity rather than the laws of
Parliament.
The sad end of Mr Menendez has probably achieved far more for Terrorist and
Anarchist groups than ten London Bombings put together because it displays a
somewhat uncomfortable realization that Mr Menendez`s described "Look of
Terror" as he was about to be killed was no different to the "Look of
Terror" that the doomed victims of the original Bombers as they detonated
their weapons.
The Government and the Police really have to come back to the Population
with a Full Account of the Menendez operation and it would help re-establish
public trust and confidence if they were to do this voluntarily rather than
have each and every detail dragged forcibly from the depths of their
"System".
Strange does`nt even begin to describe it.

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Alek wrote on Wed, 17 Aug 2005
The Government and the Police really have to come back to the
Population with a Full Account of the Menendez operation and it would
help re-establish public trust and confidence if they were to do this
voluntarily rather than have each and every detail dragged forcibly
from the depths of their
"System".


The IPCC are in the process of compiling this report. I'm sure we all
have lots of questions that want answering. But I'm not even going to
mention my own here, as I don't want to do anything to encourage another
long long thread that's very heavy on opinion and conjecture but very
short of fact. It would also imo be improper for the government or
police to try to pre-empt this report by releasing any information,
officially or leaked, at this stage.

There are going to be very vehement and informed noises from all sides
when the report does come out. If the report or the information on
which it is based appears lacking, those noises can be all the more
vehement. In the meantime, I'm just mentally tagging all the things
which do need explaining, including the who and why of the current leak.
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Well put, Sir.


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