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That's my understanding also, the surface building would need to be
located
elsewhere in the vicinity.


Erm, how about Leicester Square.

(Here we go round again).


Just far enough away to be annoying, from the point of view of someone who
has difficulty walking.


In that we are only talking about an access point, what's the problem with
an escalator down-and-up, or a moving walkway underground, between Leicester
Square and Covent Garden?

There's plenty of space in the Square itself for a new access point.

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That's my understanding also, the surface building would need to be
located
elsewhere in the vicinity.

Erm, how about Leicester Square.

(Here we go round again).


Just far enough away to be annoying, from the point of view of
someone who has difficulty walking.


In that we are only talking about an access point, what's the problem
with an escalator down-and-up, or a moving walkway underground,
between Leicester Square and Covent Garden?

There's plenty of space in the Square itself for a new access point.


For those not sure of the geography Leicester Sq station is east of
Leicester Sq in Charing Cross Road and Covent Garden Station is in the
opposite direction from the square itself..

But to answer your substantive question. Probably nothing more than money
and whatever is already underground. More of the former will overcome
problems caused by the latter.


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In that we are only talking about an access point, what's the problem with
an escalator down-and-up, or a moving walkway underground, between Leicester
Square and Covent Garden?

There's plenty of space in the Square itself for a new access point.


Please submit draft plans, with due consideration of other sub-level
constructions and approximate costings.

Also price up a publicity campaign designed to remind travelers that
there are alternative convenient routes.
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In that we are only talking about an access point, what's the problem with
an escalator down-and-up, or a moving walkway underground, between
Leicester
Square and Covent Garden?

There's plenty of space in the Square itself for a new access point.


Please submit draft plans, with due consideration of other sub-level
constructions and approximate costings.

Also price up a publicity campaign designed to remind travelers that
there are alternative convenient routes.


You're not comparing like with like: the first is a proper solution to the
problem, the second is a workaround which avoids the problem.

But I take your point: a proper solution would be seriously expensive. Mind
you, a station entrance in the market and/or the foyer of the Opera House
and/or in the entrance to the London Underground museum would be very nice
if cost wasn't an issue :-)


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But I take your point: a proper solution would be seriously expensive. Mind
you, a station entrance in the market and/or the foyer of the Opera House
and/or in the entrance to the London Underground museum would be very nice
if cost wasn't an issue :-)


I've just happened upon Westminster City Council's action plan for
Covent Garden that outlines the intentions on page 16:

http://www.westminster.gov.uk/enviro...-PlanFINAL.pdf

Short term: promotion of "alternative stations with spare capacity
(including Holborn, Embankment, and Charing Cross), and promoting
walking routes through the area" + better signage, more leaflets in
hotels, etc.

This must be what has already started, as reported at the beginning of
this thread (including the omission of Leicester Square from the list).

Medium term: "London Underground propose to improve the layout of the
existing ticket hall and increase the number of ticket gates".

This must be the works that LU have announced for 2007.

Long term: "to work with London Underground and the Mayor to develop
physical improvements to increase the capacity of the station, for
example by building a second ticket hall, and the installation of more
lifts or escalators. Feasibility work by London Underground is underway
and options will be consulted on later this year. London Underground
have a number of high priorities for congestion relief at other
stations, but we are working to ensure that the need for a solution
at Covent Garden is kept high on their agenda".

Given the importance of Covent Garden to London tourism, perhaps we
might see something in time for the 2012 Olympics? g

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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:34:19 +0100, "Martin Underwood"
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You're not comparing like with like: the first is a proper solution to the
problem, the second is a workaround which avoids the problem.


Is that bad?
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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In that we are only talking about an access point, what's the problem with
an escalator down-and-up, or a moving walkway underground, between
Leicester
Square and Covent Garden?

There's plenty of space in the Square itself for a new access point.


Please submit draft plans, with due consideration of other sub-level
constructions and approximate costings.

Also price up a publicity campaign designed to remind travelers that
there are alternative convenient routes.


Should I take it that you would pay for it if I did?

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