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![]() Colin McKenzie wrote: Martin Underwood wrote: wrote in message And how about some cycle paths to encourage cyclists off the roads (on car and bike) and onto bikes. Now that I would definitely support. For slow vehicles like bikes, the road, with cars doing 30, 40, 50, 60 mph is not the best place. Sadly, give the way that pedestrians have no "lane discipline" and no idea what's behind them, the pavement is an even worse place. And any off-road cycle path will be shared with pedestrians. And almost certainly give way at all side roads, making it both slower and more dangerous than the road. Not necessarily. If the pavement is raised above the cycle path, and the cycle path is seperated from the road by a kerb, then all should be happy. This could be achieved in most places by sacrificing a little pavement width and some road width. In soem places a row of parking needs to be sacrificed. The cycle lane should be given the same priority over side roads as the main road, subject to provisions being made for driver visibility. (To use Tunbrisge Wells as an example, where the local authorities would prefer a shoot to kill policy for cyclists, there is a major road with 4,000 school children, and a dangerous cycle lane consisting of sporadic white paint, followed by "please cycle in front of the bus". The road is wide enough at almost every point for a dedicated cycle path, but in some places parking would need to be removed. The parking itself is a major cause of traffic congestion). Key factors in safety and comfort of on-road cycling a - speed difference (not absolute speed) - space for overtaking A speed difference up to 20mph is pretty safe. A road layout that allows bikes to be overtaken with good clearance without the driver changing lane is also safe, even with a greater speed difference. Agree that people like Lance Armstrong are probably better off on the road than on the cycle path. |
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