On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:00:25 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

Last time I travelled in Hannover (circa 2000) it was possible to buy
a ticket from the driver, even on a tram.

Last time I was there - I forget the date, but when the tour reached
Berlin, the Wall was about to fall - the welcome pack handed out at
the hotel included your first tram ticket.

In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes
You can have one-day travelcard fares from the Lake District?
I just use pre-pay which is I believe where this thread started.
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Clive

On 7/10/05 12:31 pm, in article ,
"John Ray" wrote:

I don't think that a cash fare of GBP3 is intended to be seen as
reasonable.

If it isn't, and I think it's not, it will not be lawful

It is set at that level to encourage people to use
alternative methods of payment.

I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to justify very high cash fares.
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U n d e r a c h i e v e r

On 10 Oct 2005 00:18:31 GMT, "Michael R N Dolbear"
wrote:

When I last looked the London leaflets were just translations of the
English ones and did not feel it necessary to explain that underground
tickets were inclusive of any changes but a new bus ticket was needed
for each bus taken.

Good point. While this is probably self-explanatory to most British
people, where transfer single tickets are the exception rather than
the rule on buses, it may be confusing to Americans who can ask for a
transfer, and Germans who in a lot of cases (e.g. Hamburg) can do a
multimodal journey involving several modes and changes on one single
ticket.

Neil

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:04:12 +0100, Laurence Payne
wrote:

Last time I was there - I forget the date, but when the tour reached
Berlin, the Wall was about to fall - the welcome pack handed out at
the hotel included your first tram ticket.

Good idea. Maybe hotels could "rent out" (for the 3 quid deposit)
Oystercards?

Hamburg had an interesting idea when I was there - if you were going
to a concert the concert ticket itself would often be valid for travel
to and from the event, and if you stayed in some hotels your key or
room card would be valid as a ticket!

Neil

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In message , Chris Tolley
writes

That I disagree with the assertion and repeating it does not give me any
additional evidence to consider.

OK, let's look at a specific example:

Bus to Richmond station, SWT to Waterloo, tube to office.
The same coming back.

That costs £8 on a one-day Travelcard.

Using Oyster pre-pay, the two bus journeys would come to £2, the two
tube journeys would clock up £3.40. Add that to the cost of a day
return on SWT for the bit not covered by Oyster, which is £5.90.
Total using Oyster comes to £11.30.

Have I miscalculated, or does Oyster strike you as "not a sensible
option" for occasional use when it pushes the total cost to nearly 50%
more than a travelcard?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:29:15 +0100, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

On 7/10/05 12:31 pm, in article ,
"John Ray" wrote:

I don't think that a cash fare of GBP3 is intended to be seen as
reasonable.

If it isn't, and I think it's not, it will not be lawful

No? Good luck with your legal challenge.

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In article ,
(Clive) wrote:

In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes
You can have one-day travelcard fares from the Lake District?
I just use pre-pay which is I believe where this thread started.

Bully for you then. This thread is about people who don't normally need
pre-pay because they can buy one day travelcards or returns to
Underground zones much cheaper.

My need, and that of people all over the Home Counties, for singles is
very limited, two tickets so far this year. A one-day travel card (with
a Network Card) is only £1.65 more than a day return to King's Cross and
a Saver return to Zones 1 & 2 £1.20 more than a Saver to King's Cross.
So prepay isn't usable for millions of such travellers.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:13:03 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

Germans who in a lot of cases (e.g. Hamburg) can do a
multimodal journey involving several modes and changes on one single
ticket.

You mean rather like a Travelcard? Or an Oyster capped at Travelcard
rate?

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:29:15 +0100, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

I don't think that a cash fare of GBP3 is intended to be seen as
reasonable.

If it isn't, and I think it's not, it will not be lawful

Eh? What law is broken?