http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4307770.stm

Tubes and buses hit by fare hike
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Oh dear, those spokesmen are going to look a little silly when they read
their quotes.

Graham J wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4307770.stm

Tubes and buses hit by fare hike
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Oh dear, those spokesmen are going to look a little silly when they read
their quotes.
And to think that just over 10 years ago a zone one fare was £1.
Imagine if you had said that in 10 years time the fares would be 300%
dearer.

Kevin

I think I shoul have said 200%

Kevin

Now we know who's paying for all the kids/yobs to travel free.

Oh dear, those spokesmen are going to look a little silly when they read
their quotes.

And to think that just over 10 years ago a zone one fare was £1.
Imagine if you had said that in 10 years time the fares would be 300%
dearer.

That would indeed be a fair point. I know you meant 200% but of course that
is a cash fare. The Oyster Pre-Pay fare will be £1.50. A 50% rise doesn't
sound so bad. Bad enough, but not so bad.

My point was aimed at the absurdity of the comments. The first one talked
about bus and tube fares spiralling out of control. The season ticket
prices are going up around 4% I believe, which could be considered
excessive, but certainly not out of control. Oyster Pre-Pay prices seem to
be staying the same or even being reduced, so they aren't out of control.
Only for those wishing to use cash for daily fares is there an issue.

The next one said the price hike would clobber tourists. Why? They can use
an Oyster Pre-Pay just like anyone else and are encouraged to.

Finally we had one saying that it would hit those who don't use Oyster cards
because many train companies refuse them (I assume he meant don't issue
them). Well I don't see how that forces them to pay cash fares instead of
using Pre-Pay. OK with through daily tickets there may be an issue but
surely not a huge one in the scheme of things.

Seems to me that really the announcement was pretty reasonable and not
really very controversial at all.

Seems to me that really the announcement was pretty reasonable and not
really very controversial at all.

The papers print the same story every year and highlight only the worst
comparisons they can find.

In message , Graham J
writes

Finally we had one saying that it would hit those who don't use Oyster cards
because many train companies refuse them (I assume he meant don't issue
them). Well I don't see how that forces them to pay cash fares instead of
using Pre-Pay. OK with through daily tickets there may be an issue but
surely not a huge one in the scheme of things.

My job takes me into London (via SWT and tube) only occasionally, for
which I use one-day travel cards.

How would Oyster benefit me, bearing in mind that it is not accepted by
SWT?

--
Paul Terry

Finally we had one saying that it would hit those who don't use Oyster
cards
because many train companies refuse them (I assume he meant don't issue
them). Well I don't see how that forces them to pay cash fares instead
of
using Pre-Pay. OK with through daily tickets there may be an issue but
surely not a huge one in the scheme of things.

My job takes me into London (via SWT and tube) only occasionally, for
which I use one-day travel cards.

How would Oyster benefit me, bearing in mind that it is not accepted by
SWT?

It is unlikely to benefit you at all. However a dramatic increase in cash
single fares and a decrease or freezing of Oyster Pre-Pay fares will not
have a negative benefit on you either and that was the main thrust of
today's announcement. My point was simply that there was nothing in today's
anouncement that significantly penalised those who can't use Oyster cards on
their train services.

In message , at 17:52:40 on Tue, 4 Oct
2005, Paul Terry remarked:
My job takes me into London (via SWT and tube) only occasionally, for
which I use one-day travel cards.

How would Oyster benefit me, bearing in mind that it is not accepted by
SWT?

But how do highly priced cash fares dis-benefit you, given that you have
a travelcard?
--
Roland Perry

In message , Roland
Perry writes

In message , at 17:52:40 on Tue, 4 Oct
2005, Paul Terry remarked:

My job takes me into London (via SWT and tube) only occasionally, for
which I use one-day travel cards.

How would Oyster benefit me, bearing in mind that it is not accepted
by SWT?

But how do highly priced cash fares dis-benefit you, given that you
have a travelcard?

They don't. I am merely pointing out that Oyster is of no benefit to me
or Londoners like me who now work largely from home and only go into the
office one or two days a week using NR + tube. At least, it is of no
benefit until it becomes London-wide and encompasses the entire railway
system in the capital.

--
Paul Terry