In article ,
(TKD) wrote:

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then?

You can request a statement which will be mailed to you the same day by
1st class post.

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

Why should I pay a year's worth up front?

You don't. You can charge up your card with only the cost of your next
journey each time.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then?

You can request a statement which will be mailed to you the same day by
1st class post.

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

Why should I pay a year's worth up front?

You don't. You can charge up your card with only the cost of your next
journey each time.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

Are you just looking for any reason not to get one?

You can get a receipt every time you top up no matter what way you pay.

You can order a statement whenever you want or get a print out from the ticket office.

There will only be a very limited number of possible Oyster fares from next year.
Someone pedantic enough to only be prepared to top up on a per-journey basis
could surely be able to carry these listed on a small piece of paper with their Oyster
for them to refer to?

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has obviously been designed
to penalise those not from London or the very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the
rest of us.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:54:11 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has obviously been designed
to penalise those not from London or the very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the
rest of us.

I see this as well. I don't consider it appropriate.

(I am not putting up barriers to me getting an Oyster - I don't need
one as I always travel to London on outboundary ODTCs, be they of the
peak or off-peak variety. I am merely objecting to the offensively
expensive fares).

Neil

--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
When replying please use neil at the above domain
'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read.

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:54:11 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has
obviously been designed to penalise those not from London or the
very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the rest of us.

I see this as well. I don't consider it appropriate.

(I am not putting up barriers to me getting an Oyster - I don't need
one as I always travel to London on outboundary ODTCs, be they of the
peak or off-peak variety. I am merely objecting to the offensively
expensive fares).

Precisely. I mostly travel in on day returns to King's Cross and cycle
so TfL get none of my money. Other times I get one day travelcards. The
extra over a day return on those has rocketed since I started working in
London in late 2001 from 60p to £1.65 (with Network Card discount) and
will no doubt go up yet again next year.

But then there are times I stay overnight in Putney, as I will on
Friday. Then I either cycle from King's Cross to Westminster and from
Westminster to Putney and back or pay for single tickets on top of a
Saver return to Underground Zones 1 & 2.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:53:20 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:54:11 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has obviously been designed
to penalise those not from London or the very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the
rest of us.

I see this as well. I don't consider it appropriate.

Soaking the tourists is the prerogative of the transport system in any
city in which tourism plays a major role - and if TfL doesn't take
advantage of it, they're falling down on the job.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

When you feed cash into the machine, you press the receipt button and it
gives you one. I had these into work for expenses.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

On the leaflet, next to the machine.

In article ,
(Tim Bray) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

When you feed cash into the machine, you press the receipt button and
it gives you one. I had these into work for expenses.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

On the leaflet, next to the machine.

That's not a receipt for the fare paid, just the money put on the card
which might then be used for some other purpose. Don't they teach anyone
accountancy these days?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Tim Bray) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

When you feed cash into the machine, you press the receipt button
and it gives you one. I had these into work for expenses.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do
they?

On the leaflet, next to the machine.

That's not a receipt for the fare paid, just the money put on the
card which might then be used for some other purpose. Don't they
teach anyone accountancy these days?

I think you mean bureaucracy. Accountants some years ago didn't seem to
mind. It was accepted that generally you wouldn't have receipts for
public transport fares, especially on railways where single tickets were
collected at the end of the journey. Do all Tube ticket machines offer
receipts? The old ones certainly didn't.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)