I don't think that a cash fare of GBP3 is intended to be seen as
reasonable. It is set at that level to encourage people to use
alternative methods of payment.

Except that it's presumably going to be the fare on which
the NR Cross London transfer and outside London ODTC
increment is going to based. As these people don't have the
option of Oyster why should they be ripped-off?

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

"TKD" wrote in message
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I don't think that a cash fare of GBP3 is intended to be seen as
reasonable. It is set at that level to encourage people to use
alternative methods of payment.

Except that it's presumably going to be the fare on which
the NR Cross London transfer and outside London ODTC
increment is going to based. As these people don't have the
option of Oyster why should they be ripped-off?

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

Has this changed? It used to be, the cost of a DR to
London (BR) plus a fixed amount, which just happened
to be slightly less than two single tube rides.
(IIRC 2 quid against 1.10, perhaps someone can
remember how long ago this was?)

tim

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

Has this changed? It used to be, the cost of a DR to
London (BR) plus a fixed amount, which just happened
to be slightly less than two single tube rides.
(IIRC 2 quid against 1.10, perhaps someone can
remember how long ago this was?)

Its been a cheap day return plus a one day travelcard for as
long as I can remember.

What you describe sounds like a season ticket to a London
terminal which includes a Zone 1 travelcard. This ticket is
still available.

"TKD" wrote in message
...

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

Has this changed? It used to be, the cost of a DR to
London (BR) plus a fixed amount, which just happened
to be slightly less than two single tube rides.
(IIRC 2 quid against 1.10, perhaps someone can
remember how long ago this was?)

Its been a cheap day return plus a one day travelcard for as
long as I can remember.

Agreed, I was takling about how the cost for same is calculated.

tim

In article ,
(TKD) wrote:

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

Has this changed? It used to be, the cost of a DR to
London (BR) plus a fixed amount, which just happened
to be slightly less than two single tube rides.
(IIRC 2 quid against 1.10, perhaps someone can
remember how long ago this was?)

Its been a cheap day return plus a one day travelcard for as
long as I can remember.

That doesn't stack up with what I've ever been charged from Cambridge.
When I started working here (I'm in Putney as I write) in 2001 a One Day
Travelcard from Cambridge was £1 more than a day return to King's Cross
or Liverpool Street, or 60p with the Network Card discount. Now, in
2005, the difference is £4, or £2.65 with the Network Card discount.

Explain that.

What you describe sounds like a season ticket to a London
terminal which includes a Zone 1 travelcard. This ticket is
still available.

Not what I'm referring to.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:17:33 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

There are still singles to ZONE U1 LONDN, which presumably will be
based on that. There are also returns, but those (last time I
checked) were the same price as the Peak Travelcard.

The difference, incidentally, is that YP Railcard discount is
available on singles/returns to ZONE U1 LONDN but not at all on Peak
Travelcards (not even on the rail part), so last time I did a peak
journey it was on one of those.

Neil

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In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:17:33 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

An outside London ODTC is based on the travelcard price
plus whatever the rail company charges to the boundary
of Zone 6. The ODTC1-6 has gone up by 30p. The Zone 1
tube single doesn't even come in to the equation.

There are still singles to ZONE U1 LONDN, which presumably will be
based on that. There are also returns, but those (last time I
checked) were the same price as the Peak Travelcard.

The difference, incidentally, is that YP Railcard discount is
available on singles/returns to ZONE U1 LONDN but not at all on Peak
Travelcards (not even on the rail part), so last time I did a peak
journey it was on one of those.

Not so, off-peak at least. On Friday, for example, I bought a Saver
Return from Cambridge to Underground Zones 1 & 2 with Network Card
discount for £17.65 to travel to Putney yesterday and back today.

--
Colin Rosenstiel