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According to the report, the ropes have been replaced with ones that are
several millimetres too thick. I presume they are therefore getting
stuck, making it very difficult to reset the tripcock.

Or perhaps the rope is too thick and doesn't move when the tripcock is
hit and so the tripcock is prevented from working?


Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still suspended.

:-(
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Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still suspended.

:-(


According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting the
entire Northern line.

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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Brian Watson
writes

Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still
suspended.

:-(


According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting
the entire Northern line.


LU have been blaming the tripcock problem on the "signalling system"
from the start.

Another question: what, if any, differences are there between the
tripcock systems on the 1995 (Northern) and 1996 (Jubilee) trains, which
are generally of similar design from the same manufacturer?
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Richard J. wrote:
Paul Terry wrote:

In message , Brian Watson
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Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still
suspended.

:-(


According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting
the entire Northern line.



LU have been blaming the tripcock problem on the "signalling system"
from the start.


You seem to be implying this is in accurate. I would say that the
tripcock system is part of the signalling system just as much as any set
of lights, cables or signalboxes (or whatever LU call them). Just
because this part of the system is train and not track mounted, doesn't
make it any less part of the signalling system.

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Richard J. wrote:
Paul Terry wrote:

In message , Brian Watson
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Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still
suspended.

:-(

According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting
the entire Northern line.



LU have been blaming the tripcock problem on the "signalling
system" from the start.


You seem to be implying this is in accurate.


Primarily I was correcting the misleading impression given by the word
"now".

I would say that the tripcock system is part of the signalling
system just as much as any set of lights, cables or signalboxes
(or whatever LU call them). Just because this part of the system
is train and not track mounted, doesn't make it any less part of
the signalling system.


I can almost agree with that. However, LU are now saying that the
suspension is in force "while work to modify safety equipment on
Northern line trains is carried out", which is much clearer.
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:47:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Brian Watson
writes

Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still
suspended.

:-(


According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting
the entire Northern line.


LU have been blaming the tripcock problem on the "signalling system"
from the start.

Another question: what, if any, differences are there between the
tripcock systems on the 1995 (Northern) and 1996 (Jubilee) trains, which
are generally of similar design from the same manufacturer?



I think it has to do with the company that maintain the Northern Line
stock, who are different from Jubilee Line stock maintainers.

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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:47:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Brian Watson
writes

Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still
suspended.

:-(

According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting
the entire Northern line.


LU have been blaming the tripcock problem on the "signalling system"
from the start.

Another question: what, if any, differences are there between the
tripcock systems on the 1995 (Northern) and 1996 (Jubilee) trains, which
are generally of similar design from the same manufacturer?



I think it has to do with the company that maintain the Northern Line
stock, who are different from Jubilee Line stock maintainers.

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Make love not war!

They are both maintained by (Tubelines) Alstrom. The diffrence is that ILRC
is the Northen line was a Alstrom design and build and the Jubliee line was
a LU design and Alstrom build. Therefore despite them only being a year
diffrent in age 95 Nor 96 Jub there are signifcant diffrences.


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With all this media fuss and the unions doing their usual
phoney heroic sacrifice-for-the-good-of-the-public bull****
routine , no one seems to have made the mental link that
lots of tripcock failures in service = lots of drivers going
through red lights. If they hadn't then this problem wouldn't
have been noticed. Perhaps someone should be asking why
these overpaid knuckle draggers are having so many SPADs
on this 1 line.

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Boltar wrote:
With all this media fuss and the unions doing their usual
phoney heroic sacrifice-for-the-good-of-the-public bull****
routine , no one seems to have made the mental link that
lots of tripcock failures in service = lots of drivers going
through red lights.


Non-sequitur.
You've already raised this is a separate thread - see my reply.
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:34:12 +0100, Paul Terry
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In message , Brian Watson
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Just heard on BBC London this morning that service is still suspended.

:-(


According to TfL this is now due to signalling problems affecting the
entire Northern line.


And no doubt some media will continue to say that there's "a signal
failure".

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