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We also seem to have gone backwards on area control
of a set of lights. Do these schemes still exist in London?
I keep being stopped, particularly at light-controlled
pedestrian crossings, in a way that suggests that
each set of lights functions independently.


I believe they still exist, but they can only work in one direction. If you
commute against the flow, you will likely get red after red.

Another thing - there is a pedestrian crossing in Kenton Road near the
Northwick Park roundabout which regularly goes red (to vehicles) even though
there are never any pedestrians anywhere near. Is this a malfunction or
design?

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Another thing - there is a pedestrian crossing in Kenton Road near the
Northwick Park roundabout which regularly goes red (to vehicles) even though
there are never any pedestrians anywhere near. Is this a malfunction or
design?


I've not tried that one. Are you sure that it doesn't make pedestrians
wait so long that they cross long before the lights stop the traffic?
There are certainly some on heavily-used routes that keep pedestrians
waiting inordinately long. (Finchley Road (A41) just south of Platts
Lane/Fortune Green Rd is one such example.)

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Another thing - there is a pedestrian crossing in Kenton
Road near the Northwick Park roundabout which regularly
goes red (to vehicles) even though there are never any
pedestrians anywhere near. Is this a malfunction or design?


I've not tried that one. Are you sure that it
doesn't make pedestrians wait so long that
they cross long before the lights stop the traffic?


I thought that the first few times, but I've been stopped by it about 100
times this year, and I don't think I have ever seen a pedestrian in this
road at all.

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Another thing - there is a pedestrian crossing in Kenton
Road near the Northwick Park roundabout which regularly
goes red (to vehicles) even though there are never any
pedestrians anywhere near. Is this a malfunction or design?


I've not tried that one. Are you sure that it
doesn't make pedestrians wait so long that
they cross long before the lights stop the traffic?


I thought that the first few times, but I've been stopped by it
about 100 times this year, and I don't think I have ever seen a
pedestrian in this road at all.


Try reporting it as a fault to http://streetfaults.tfl.gov.uk/
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Try reporting it as a fault to http://streetfaults.tfl.gov.uk/


Thanks!

No-one bother me for a while, I have a few hundred street faults to report.

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Try reporting it as a fault to http://streetfaults.tfl.gov.uk/


Thanks!

No-one bother me for a while, I have a few hundred street faults to report.


Good luck... I reported a fault with some street lighting in Shepherd's
Bush (quite a dangerous fault - the lights in a pedestrian subway had
gone, plunging it into darkness), and ended up ringing around about 6
different numbers when nothing got done about it. I got bounced around
from TfL to Kensington, who said it was Hammersmith's problem, who said
it was TfL's, who said I needed to ring their contractors, who told me I
had rung the wrong number etc... eventually the lighting got fixed. But
it did break again two days later.

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Try reporting it as a fault to http://streetfaults.tfl.gov.uk/


Thanks!

No-one bother me for a while, I have a few hundred street faults to

report.

6 weeks later, I have to wonder why I bothered, because 5 of the 8 faults I
reported have definitely not been fixed, and I'm not sure whether the other
3 have been fixed or not. Presumably this website is another of Blair's
initiatives - always look like you're doing something, but never actually do
anything.

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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, John Rowland wrote:

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Try reporting it as a fault to http://streetfaults.tfl.gov.uk/


Thanks!

No-one bother me for a while, I have a few hundred street faults to
report.


6 weeks later, I have to wonder why I bothered, because 5 of the 8
faults I reported have definitely not been fixed, and I'm not sure
whether the other 3 have been fixed or not.


Maybe they're waiting for you to get through the rest of the few hundred?

Presumably this website is another of Blair's initiatives - always look
like you're doing something, but never actually do anything.


Yes, John, i'm sure Tony Blair himself personally masterminded the TfL
street faults website. Where on earth do you get this extraordinary idea
that emitting platitudes while doing nothing is a Blair invention? Is this
is not what every single human government *ever*, all the way back to the
Jericho town council, has done?

tom

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